Whether you're dealing with acne, anxiety, or pretty much any health problem, according to various corners of the internet, you could solve it by way of a restrictive "detoxifying" cleanse. But not only are these cleanses often ineffective, they can also be legitimately dangerous. It's understandable to want to kickstart your health, but there are much safer and healthier ways to refocus your eating patterns — and they certainly don't require you to subsist entirely on liquids.
Sorry if I missed this somewhere along in the thread. It was dizzying reading through the comments and I had to skip to the bottom. I can see where it becomes so difficult for people to make good choices or know what to trust with so much different information out there and competing facts about ingredients. I just watched the documentary “Fed Up” this weekend and that also illustrates how people can become so misguided and it’s really sad. From now on, sticking to my gut and trying my best to eat clean, organic real foods!!
In the Journal of the American Medical Association — suggesting that all the extra folic acid might increase your odds of developing cancer. “The more we learn about folic acid, the more it’s clear that giving it to everyone has very real risks,” says folic acid researcher David Smith, Ph.D., a professor of pharmacology at the University of Oxford in England.
The Isagenix model is to turn as many customers as possible into supplement dealers armed with nothing but slick marketing materials and ZERO qualifications. I know multiple people who peddle this stuff, and not one of them has any kind of qualifications related to health, nutrition or fitness. The things I hear them tell people is not only beyond scary, I have had to intervene and stop multiple sales that would have had negative impacts on known health conditions (ie: sale of e-shots to someone with hypertension, and whey protein concentrate to someone who everyone knows is lactose intolerant….they didn’t even know that whey concentrate still has lactose, or that whey was dairy for that matter!!!!)
Processed foods of any kind are always bad for us! Processing “kills” the food! If the reason you choose to purchase Isogenics or other toxic processed foods (including organic) is because you dont have time to make your food. So buy a blender and throw organic baby spinach, carrots, kale, apples and frozen bananas together and let is blend. Drink that and see how great you feel. There are plenty of great recipes on the interent for the times you need fast “real” food. I have been eating organic “real” food for a very long time. My and family and I NEVER go to the doctor for any reason. I dont need to be some sciencetist or nutritionist to prove my point. My health speaks for itself! I also look 10-15 years younger than people my own age. Fresh organic fruits and vegetables are the only foods we should be eating. The rest should be taken off the market and those companies / restaurants producing toxic “processed” food should be forced to close their doors forever!
Secondly, I find it interesting that it is mentioned several times about the gluten and soy – the shakes don’t have soy in them. There are a few products now that have gluten however the shakes don’t. I am gluten intolerant as well and have major reactions when even a bread crumb touches something i eat. I have been using the product for about 8 months after being on a completely organic diet where my body could only eat sweet potatoes, avocado and organic vegetable soup. I was anorexic, malnutritioned and exhausted all the time. I wanted to give up before I was introduced to the isagenix product line. I had done so much damage to my body that even my brain was affected. I had a hard time holding conversations and my focus was gone.
Dr. Harriet Hall writes more below about the junk science behind Isagenix. In short, there are no proven benefits to using the Isagenix products. Users of the products may offer anecdotes about their success with them, but that is not the same as having independent scientific studies supporting such claims. Of course, Isagenix prohibits reps from making medical claims about the products, but such a prohibition never seems to stop the distributors in any company.
“Organic” does not automatically mean “pesticide-free” or “chemical-free”. In fact, under the laws of most states, organic farmers are allowed to use a wide variety of chemical sprays and powders on their crops. Organic means that these pesticides, if used, must be derived from natural sources, not synthetically manufactured. Also, these pesticides must be applied using equipment that has not been used to apply any synthetic materials for the past three years, and the land being planted cannot have been treated with synthetic materials for that period either. When you look at lists of pesticides allowed in organic agriculture, you find warnings such as, “Use with caution. The toxicological effects of [organic pesticide X] are largely unknown,” or “Its persistence in the soil is unknown.” Again, researchers haven’t bothered to study the effects of organic pesticides because it is assumed that “natural” chemicals are automatically safe.
Furthermore…… to all the people out there who have been quite arrogant in some of these posts, but saying that Dani knows nothing…………. I do not know this lady, but I do know my family GP very well and i have no reason to doubt her. My recent blood results did show a change in the Vitamin D level, but that was purely down to the fact I had a Vitamin D injection to cover me for 6 months (rather than take daily supplements). Other than that…. NO Change anywhere. I can honestly say, this system did not work for me.
The second link you provide by David Despain is the science and communications spokesperson for Isagenix, what irony. Now he would be a good person to contact to raise your concerns:): This link doesn’t support your argument at all. quoting the first paragraph “It was the most recent of several review papers to conclude that fructose is probably not inherently fattening in humans, but that it can be fattening if it’s consumed to excess, due to the added calories”
Dani, you mention fructose in high amounts can be toxic to the liver. Can you elaborate on that? There is no definition or explanation as to what is a high amount. While I agree that eating items with high fructose is bad, this is a result of poor diet where items with fructose have little to no fiber or protein content. That would allow the body (liver) to break down the “sugar” and process it similar to glucose. I’m not expert, just an interested reader.
1. Millions of people on countries throughout the world have experienced profound reversals in the steady decline of their health due to the Isalean shakes. This is factual. There are, to date, no recorded cases of long-term users of the products experiencing a decline in their health. So, how can this be if the shakes contain toxic, rancid or other ingredients that are dangerous to one’s health? Here is the answer: Most people who reach for Isagenix as a system of overall health, weight loss, detoxification, etc., are people who have been addicted to simple carbohydrates, fast food, and the “typical” American diet, which as we know is way more toxic and carcinogenic than Isagenix. Most users of the product lose weight, and experience a dec rease in their CRPs, and other inflammation markers because the products are *replacing* frozen dinners, grab’n’go meals and snacks, vending machine “food,” and just about anything that can be purchased in a drive-through. While a micro- and macro-nutrient balanced, whole, organic food diet is by far a better option than any processed or fabricated meal replacement, the sad truth is that virtually every user of an Isagenix shake is incapable (for whatever reason, i.e., socioeconomic status, lack of understanding of food choices, peer pressure, lack of portability, etc.) of doing “better” than they have been — until they are told to simply consume 2 scoops of this powder twice a day. What I have seen, time and again, is constant improvement in health…and even the elimination of debilitating physical and emotional symptoms….when a person adhere’s to the Isagenix shakes, the cleanse liquid, and one meal per day of whole, preferably organic, macronutrient balanced foods. What I have seen, time and again, is that overweight people were consuming 1000s of empty calories of literally toxic food, yet were malnourished! Vitamin and mineral deficient, with leaky gut syndrome and the full gamut of dysbiosis-related syndromes and conditions.
I’ve been enjoying this discourse, its nice if we can stick to logic, but I feel that various people are getting emotional on this issue. Just curious where you have the idea that ALL vegetable oils are inflammatory? At what point? Due to what? There are practically centuries recorded use of olive oil…what part makes it unhealthy?? Is not moderation the key? What makes soybean oil rancid and bad?
However, according to Barclay this has more to do with weight loss than anything unique to Isagenix. "People often feel euphoric when they consume low-kilojoule meal replacements, due to the rapid weight loss. Losing weight can provide you with the sensation of having more energy – because you have less weight to carry around. It's very subjective though."
Ditch the packaged, processed foods today (even the “healthy” versions). This will ensure you are taking out excess sodium, artificial ingredients and sugar from your diet. Also, ditch the salt shaker and instead use only herbs and spices to flavor your food. You’ll find this can help make a big difference in how you look and feel. Even after one day!
Sorry, kitchen’s closed (for 12 to 15 hours since you last ate). Nighttime fasting—or reducing your “eating window”—may help to reset your metabolism and burn the extra glucose in your system after a period of overindulgence, according to researchers at the Salk Institute for Biological Studies. The scientists fed adult mice one of four diets—some high in sugar, some high in fat, some both. And each of the four diets contained the same number of calories. From there, mice in each diet group were then given set times to eat. Some could eat whenever they wanted, others were restricted to feeding times of 9, 12 or 15 hours a day. Regardless of what kind of diet they ate, and regardless of the fact that they ate the same number of calories, mice in the 9-hour and 12-hour groups remained healthy, while all of the mice in the 15-hour group became obese.
Here is an example of what I have read in these feeds: As much as I would like to MAKE AN UNEDUCATED GUESS that the deniers are probably democrats or don’t vote, I have absolutely no data to support my crazy statement and could have also made an assumption based on the personal filter/belief that all or most democrats never or can’t back their decisions with facts. Presenting facts to support a concept or product is not an action influenced by a group you belong to. Presenting unbiased facts is honest research. Everyone should be supportive of honest research. Rather than getting upset, use your energy to seriously find research to support what you beleive. Dani has done so and continues to address ethically those who disagree with her. This entire feed is so educational and entertaining on many levels. Amazing how so many people resort to name calling when they interpret something as offensive. I am sharing this sight with my daughter and students to learn how to debate and how not to debate, good and bad research, the balanced and unbalanced person, Gorilla Marketing, and the list goes on! Keep this feed alive!
Calories in v Calories out, exercise etc etc, these are all the common sense answers to any attempt to lose weight. If you take Isagenix or any other product to SUPPLEMENT your lifestyle then you are more likely to achieve success, so if you look at Isagenix or other SUPPLEMENTS in this context then they will help. Maybe use them as a jumpstart to help you improve other lifestyle habits like the fruit and veggies and exercise. I have never tried this stuff but over the years as a Professional Athlete I have tried many, but they have never been the hook on which I hang my nutritional requirement hat….
I found myself about 25 days ago, being faced with the choice of trying Isagenix. I looked into it. I did some research. I was discerning. And given that those who introduced me to it were close family and I had been watching their results closely and was actually impressed, I decided to give it a go. But lets be clear about something: I owned that decision completely. It was not sold, because I will not be sold to. Now, 20 days in, so many of my hopes and dreams are back in gear and the adventures I’ve been hoping and praying to be part of are within my conscious control. Isagenix didn’t do that. I did. I saw Isagenix as a tool and I realised that my application of that tool would be paramount to the success or failure of the venture. Sure, I understand and appreciate that some of the ingredients are suspect. But so is the fluoride added to water supplies that is still mandatory in most provinces and states of New Zealand and Australia where I’ve spent the majority of my 39 years. And we know what that stuff does to our pineal gland… right? And what the pineal gland does for us and how important latest neurological studies are suggesting it is to our overall experience as “living systems?” I really hope thats a bandwagon those of you with “credentials” are on. I don’t mean that disrespectfully, I sincerely mean that.
– Dr. Suk Cho – Dr. Cho received his B.S. in Biochemistry at Juniata College, his M.S. in natural product chemistry at Miami University, and his Ph.D. in Organic Chemistry at Emory University. He has more than 30 patents and has authored or co-authored more than a dozen articles or abstracts in peer-reviewed scientific journals. Previously, Dr. Cho served on the Scientific Advisory Board or in upper-level management of R&D for a variety of nutrition-related companies. He was also R&D manager for global consumer product giant Unilever for nearly a decade.
Let’s start off by clarifying that in general, multilevel marketing companies are legal scams in the United States. The government allows them to exist and multiply. They offer products which are little more than a “front” for the schemes, since without a legitimate looking product or service, the companies would be at risk of appearing to be illegal pyramid schemes.
I also looked at the amino acid distribution. Firstly, since the mixture is completely and totally fabricated why not get the amino acid distribution to reflect the optimal profile of the essential amino acids for humans? Secondly, when one looks at the branched chain amino acids (leucine, isoleucine, valine) it is clear that one shake provides the required daily dose. Of course, convincing people that they need to consume two shakes a day works wonders in enhancing their profit margin.
Sometimes, taking charge feels good. Reunions come along from time to time. So do beach getaways, job interviews, big dates, and other “holy cow, I’d better get it in gear” moments. Taking control of our fitness and health at important junctures in life gives us a sense of accomplishment. You’ll be able to revisit this cleanse whenever a big event looms. Turbocharged results are within your grasp. What I love about this cleanse is that it doesn’t require truly dramatic sacrifice. The only serious change you’ll need to make, besides giving up mindless snacking, is in your morning routine.
You can’t just write “Fact:” and it be true, where are your resources and your qualifications?? This is the kind of uneducated response that makes false information continue to be spread. There is obviously no reason to argue with you as you are clearly one of those people who are always right even when smacked in the face with some contradicting evidence. I wonder if back in the day you would have been on the ‘world is flat’ commonsense bandwagon.
I just have to say since I can not post the pictures I took of the IsaLean Shake container the issue can not put to rest. There are no DENATURED protein in Isagenix IsaLean Shake and is FREE of GLUTEN and SOY (reads on the front of the container). I take it and I looked the actual ingredients and all I read UNDENATURED and have not found anything that reads “artificial” There is FRUCTOSE, but I as looked up fructose I found this article: http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/nutrition/a/fructosedangers.htm
Hello Dani! WOW! Truth is.. The BodyDoesn’t Lie! So you are right on the money when you mention listening to your “intuition”. Oh my holy goodness.. I have been taking the Isogenix Shakes etc for almost two weeks..because a ‘well meaning’ someone signed me up under her to sell, sell, sell and had a UPS package of products shipped to my home at no charge to me. I didn’t have a good feeling about them and immediately voiced my concerns about the high fruitcose and sodium content to a top representitive of the company who repeated a continuous looping of ‘these products are formulated by a Master Formulater and everything balances out.. He knows what he’s doing!” I just came across your site late this afternoon and read clear through to the end. So gratefull for your staying in the arena here with all these cultish holy rollers.. I drove to the small market in this small mostly one religion town and bought a Kombucha and took a swig in your honour…because I have felt so fuzzy headed, unclear and with an ache in my back in the area where my right kidney is since taking this “stuff “! There is so much more I could say.. Instead ~ I’ll just say how much I appreciate you and look forward to reading more of your other articles! It’s probably a ‘runaway train’ with the long winders. .. But keep your post up..for those who know the truth doesn’t lie!!!! My best to you!
Ohh yes I see these guys in my gym, they started using it and hey I have so much energy, suddenly I have improved my personal record by 40kg? Really? just that you have trained like shit for the last decade and suddenly you got a bit of motivation through a shake? Ahh and yes obviously you stopped eating junk food and drink lots of beer due to the isagenix program, which you should have done to start with.
One of the most important defense mechanisms the body has to guard itself against aging is a process called autophagy (8). Autophagy can be thought of as the body doing its own internal “housekeeping” so that all organ systems and processes continue to run smoothly. Old, damaged cell components are repaired or discarded so that cells can continue to function optimally. Autophagy in the body decreases as we age, so the body’s ability to self-help itself is reduced as well. Calorie restriction, including fasting, has been found to promote autophagy to mend the body’s cells (9). It’s as if the consumption of fewer calories allows the body to rest and to go into recovery mode. This has been proposed to be the reason why calorie restriction and fasting have an “anti-aging” effect.
Thanks for reaching out. There are different stages of the Cellular Healing Diet; the advanced stage is basically the ketogenic diet, wherein may lie the confusion. The basic CHD may include small amounts of sprouted ancient grains, whereas the advanced CHD (the keto diet) includes no grains, but much more good fat and moderate protein. See here for Dr. Pompa’s article on ketosis: Ketosis 1: https://drpompa.com/additional-resources/health-tips/ketogenic-diet
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It seems complicated, I know. But once you just eliminate all of the food products, it’s easy. If you stick to the basics of real food, organic, found in nature, then you’re good. I tend to avoid most things with a label and make food from scratch; this really simplifies eating. I would recommend reading The Perfect Health Diet by Paul Jaminet, it is scientific but not difficult to understand.
You see, every day there are millions of cellular reactions occurring in your body. Some of this activity causes damage within your body. As with any equipment that is used a lot, the daily stress causes breakdown. Fortunately, your body is built for such circumstances and can naturally heal anything that isn’t working at an optimal level. This is autophagy.
Increasing your heart rate will mean an increase in blood flow. This, in turn, will help your body to flush out toxins all on its own. You don’t even need to hit a gym to get your sweat sesh in, here’s a quickie workout I do just about anywhere. The takeaway here is to rev your heart rate, break a sweat, and get in a better mindset to kick it up a notch again tomorrow.
My daughters have tried to get me to take this stuff. My husband is pre-diabetic and needs to lose weight. People in his family are predisposed to carry fat on their stomachs, men and women. I have studied nutrition for 30 years, and practiced it in my life. When they presented me with this, I thought it was just a trial. They said I could return it in 30 days. I was not told that it would “auto ship”. I tried one of the IsaDelights that we were “gifted” with and I found it to be intensely sweet. When I looked at the ingredients (mind you, this is to be taken on “cleanse” days, imagine my surprise to find the number one ingredient was sugar. When I looked at the list of “vitamins” on the cans, I saw folic acid, which is a synthetic that is detrimental to the body instead of folate. All these things were glossed over. That much sugar in just one “snack” (two were recommended) was way too big a hit of sugar for someone fighting elevated blood sugars. Why couldn’t they have used Stevia? Stevia doesn’t raise glucose levels and is about 0 carbs/calories. Fructose is cheaper. Soy is cheaper. These guys are scientists, but not necessarily nutritionists. This may take the weight off, or it might not. I think it depends on how motivated the person is. If you are going spend a fortune on this product, and to help pay for it you become a seller; (Kind of like vampirism, you get infected and pass it on), you want to be able to show the next guy that it works. So you work harder to lose the weight. So making money becomes the motivation. Best motivation in the world, but I am leery of MLM’s and their pyramids, which cause people to force their loved ones to buy something that is inferior to what they are already doing. Just because these people claim to be scientists doesn’t impress me. I can claim to be a scientist too. I can claim to be a Martian if I want to. Maybe people will believe me, maybe they won’t. I do not know any truly reputable people who have researched this thoroughly, who would give it a thumbs up. As a last resort, maybe, but it’s full of synthetics and GMOs. That is my opinion. We’ve tried it and it’s probably too late to get our money back.
Quite a few commenters reported that they had tried it and it either didn’t work or caused side effects such as 5 days of violent diarrhea. One reported gaining a lot of weight while taking it; many reported losing weight just as well without it. Several reported credit card disputes with the company and failure to get their money refunded. One reported that his parents are using it and it seems to be slowly killing them: they have decreased energy, declining health, mood swings, and poorer control of diabetes.
A friend of mine has posted his recent weight loss on facebook and as a result of my curiousity has sent me all the information on Isagenix. Thank you for providing me with food for thought. I am not sure if any of the comments so far have shared this interesting link as I lost interest half way through the scroll bar (amazed I made it that far). There are only so many times you can read the words “due dilligence” and not notice the obvious religious overtones in the responses of the converted which generally leads to judgemental accusations “evil” brought about by ignorance and biase and strengthened by relationships and profit. At any length I have found the links below to support your claims and certainly define your struggle.
The cleansers in my Isagenix Facebook group said it would be easier after day five, and they were right. I got used to drinking a shake for breakfast and a shake for dinner, and looked forward to my low-glycemic lunches like it was Christmas morning. (I was salivating as I put pieces of lettuce into a container at the salad bar.) Though I didn’t lose any more pounds than the previous weigh-in, this didn’t deter my motivation. For the first time in a long time, I’m feeling good—digesting food nicely (in the past, I’d have a bit of a rumble here and there), and oddly, I have more energy than ever before.
As a doctor practitioner who has invested long hours of study into nutrition and lifestyle, as well as current therapies, to help my chronically ill or compromised patients, I have watched the effects of Isagenics on many patients and close friends. In many, I see weight loss and an increase in confidence that they have control over their body, but in the majority of those cases it is just an acceptable form of Bulimia (which also gives the sufferer a sense of control). For many, the ‘cleanse’ is a socially acceptable form of purging, for others it is a way of stopping twice at the next stop sign, because you just ran through the first. What hurts me is to watch many of these ‘devotees’ trim fat, but also dramatically increase wrinkles, along with increasing body and emotional reactivity. It is very difficult to help some of them get their lives back on track, just as it was difficult, years ago, to help those who got deeply into cults. For a many, it starts as a healthier path than they were on, but instead of encouraging them to continue to the next healthier level, the culties try to keep them from leaving the fold. Certainly, there are many ingredients that are natural, superfood, or have some recent hype about a unique property, but they are not applied in an individualized manner, but more as a marketing ploy, and to help the ‘converts’ feel that their company is up on the latest so that they don’t get tempted to stray over to other products. We are regularly getting patients ‘off of’ supplements that are known to have beneficial properties, but are not currently appropriate for them. Lastly, I am concerned about the interdependence that the company fosters for the sake of profit, in the name of helping each other. How easily can an Isagenics member leave the fold to pursue the next higher level of physical, emotional, and spiritual health? Does the company encourage you to use their products to help you get out of the fast food rut, but then to graduate on to higher health with real food, no-strings-attached relationships, and selfless service? What is the company’s real mission? It is the image of that mission that you will find imprinted into the product you consume. I can feel the difference in our patients. Naturally grown, harvested, and consumed real food carries a different signature than corporate products.
Before Isagenix I ate VERY healthily (Organic vegetables from our farm, pasture raised meats, whole grains, etc). I also was very active physically (vegetable farming is very labor intensive and during the winter time I went to the gym three or four times a week to do intense cardio). Despite these efforts, I wasn’t just overweight, but I was in the obese category ( I was 60lbs overweight).
Still freaking out… My mental turmoil led me to a Facebook group of other Isagenix cleansers for support—some of whom started their cleanses on the same day as my fiancé and I, while most were people who go on cleanses repeatedly. (Wait, people do this more than once?) Apparently, some even do it for 30 days at a time. I don’t think I’m quite that dedicated to my body or nutritional well-being. I'm happy to report I've lost 5 pounds so far (my fiance lost 12!).
Then I’m told that all modern food has chemicals and it is the liver putting fat around those chemicals that has caused me to gain weight……. and I always thought it was poor diet like eating too much sugary things that did it, a case of more calories in than being burned. Apparently I’m wrong, but there was no explanation forthcoming in reply to my comment that I managed to lose weight by exercising more and watching what I ate, especially cutting right back on sugary foods and sugar, otherwise making no dietary changes. I even managed to wear trousers again that I’d had to stop wearing because I got too big for them.
I’ve lost a total of 20 pounds on Isagenix. This is partially due to Isagenix and partially due to working out and tracking my food log and paying close attention to what I’m eating. At first I refused to do the cleanse days because I don’t like NOT eating, but, the cleanse days have helped me drop those pesky last few pounds. I do agree that you can’t stay on Isagenix forever and you need to also learn how to eat whole, healthy, unprocessed foods. The meal replacement shakes are just so EASY for me, which is why I do it. I figure its better to fix a quick shake than going through the drive-through when I’m short on time. I think a lot of people realize or are skeptical if the products are legit, but, if you want to lose weight it makes it easier, which is all I care about right now! The sales aspect of the company IS annoying, and what I choose to take and ingest into my body is my choice, and I wouldn’t want to push this on others and promote it as “healthy” if I wasn’t 100% sure- I’m not a doctor or a nutritional expert.
My cousins started selling isagenix and slowly talked to us about it in the beginning. They were very well trusted members of our family so we listened to them when they told us the benefits of isagenix. I was 4 months postpartum from having my second kid and my husband is a coach and trainer. They told me the the shake I’d be drinking would be nutritional for me and the shake my husband was drinking would be drinking would help with weight loss, even though it was the same shake. So I start drinking it and the second day in my baby (who I was breastfeeding) started getting diarrhea. My cousin who sold this to me and has always answered and helped me with mom advice told me before I started that this was totally ok to drink while breastfeeding and lots of moms do it. Back to the diarrhea with my 4 month old, she tells me that my strictly breastfed baby has diarrhea because she’s probably never had that much nutrition. I couldn’t believe it! I think I tried the shake 2 more times and realized my cousin is full of BS but sadly by that time it had already taken a toll on my baby. She started breaking out with a rash on her face and got diagnosed with eczema. I never tried isagenix again and couldn’t eat any dairy for a year after that, while nursing my baby because it made her eczema flare up. She is 2 and still sensitive to dairy. I know I sound like a idiot for even trying it but that’s why I am angry with this scheme!! They were so trusted and totally took advantage and still take advantage of our other family and friends. It’s sick to see.