Fasting indeed has a long-standing spiritual tradition. "Almost every religion has some type of fasting ritual -- Lent, Ramadan, Yom Kippur ... the Hindus and Buddhists fast, too," says James Dillard, MD, assistant clinical professor at Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York City. He's author of Alternative Medicinefor Dummies.
The danger is NOT this blogger but people like you who doubt anyone who is willing and able to challenge the notion that big business and commercial enterprises in agriculture are not causing mahem and risks to the health of consumers by nefarious food processing and food additive practices. Consumers have been too used to just trusting manufacturers and not questioning what goes in to the food and other products we eat.

Perhaps your time would be better spent unearthing the problems (scams) in the food production chain, instead of slamming a part of it that is actually scientifically-proven to be helping people. Perhaps it would be more productive if you stuck with accountig and leave the nutrition to the people that actually are Phd’d and published in that field.
Very interesting article, I’m with you 100% Dani, I’ve been fructose free ( apart from eating no more than 2 pieces of whole fruit per day) for a year now and doing the 5×2 ( don’t like to call it a diet but a plan). I’ve never felt and looked better in my 46 yrs. My gym is plugging Isagenix and it saddens me to see the amount of people sucked in. When they tried to sell it to me the first thing I did was check the ingredients and as soon as I saw fructose listed I said there is no way am I putting that into my body.
Anyone who did the cleans and did lose weight, I can’t even fathom. each shake has 240 calories add in a light dinner say 400 calories, thats 880 calories a day as an intake. I know calories are not always perfect and I don’t pretend to know what I am talking about but I think you would have to be 80 pounds to eat 840 calories a day and not lose weight. At my size I burn approx. 3400 calories a day, hence my weight loss. Add in about 3-500 burned at the gym and I am losing a pound a day in just calories (which I know id not a perfect science)
Actually, the information I provided isn’t “opinion” it’s fact, something Isagenix users have trouble grasping. Not ALL of the products are gluten-free, as I made very clear in the article. If you feel it works for you, great. But just because it helps you keep weight off doesn’t mean it’s keeping you healthy. Another thing I made very clear in the article.

After water, fuel yourself with food! It will jumpstart your metabolism after a night of sleep. When doing a mini-cleanse, the advice I give to clients is to skip the bread, cereal or any version of them at breakfast as they will cause your body to retain more water, and instead focus your attention on protein, which will provide satiety. An egg-and-salmon scramble is a perfect combo of protein and metabolism-boosting omega-3s to start the day. Or if you’re on the go, opt instead for an easy gut healthy smoothie.
Former Isagenix customer Megan Moulton says that the power of the social media groups and the communities can be the magic bullet for hardcore fans. "You can become a celebrity within the Isagenix community. Social media can make you feel special and affirmed, and the more you post the more important you can feel. Some people really seem to need that."
Isagenix Ionic Alfalfa, bilberry extract, ashwagandha extract, pau d’arco inner bark extract, blueberry extract, aloe vera leaf gel, raspberry juice extract, burdock root extract, rhodiola root extract, deglycyrrhizinated licorice root extract, eleutherococcus senticosus root extract, turmeric root extract, peppermint leaf extract, yellow dock root extract, fennel seed extract, suma root extract, choline bitartrate, betaine HCI, inositol, fructose, potassium citrate, citric acid, purple carrot, natural flavor, lime juice powder, pyridoxine HCI, niacinamide, cyanocobalamin, and I-methionine.
Ditch the packaged, processed foods today (even the “healthy” versions). This will ensure you are taking out excess sodium, artificial ingredients and sugar from your diet. Also, ditch the salt shaker and instead use only herbs and spices to flavor your food. You’ll find this can help make a big difference in how you look and feel. Even after one day!
Hey not everyone has the ability to exercise (possibly due to any injury). So for some of us Isagenix has been a life-saver. It’s not just about the weight loss. I have never felt better in my life! And by the way, I don’t sell it, I use it for my own personal consumption. And it is gluten free!! I’m sorry everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but that’s just what it is “opinion.” Not everything is going to work for everyone, but that’s what makes the world go round! People need to make their own decisions based on their own personal needs. For me, Isagenix in conjunction with super clean eating has been the answer.
Today is Day Four of my special "Does it Work" Health tests, and perhaps, today features the most controversial test of them all.  I'm focusing on nutritional cleansing weight loss plans   These days, it seems almost any magazine you open or red carpet interview you watch on TV, celebrities are talking about detoxing to jump-start their weight loss.
They advertise “no caffeine added” for a product that contains green tea; green tea contains caffeine. They repeat the tired old myth that our food isn’t as nutritious as in the “good old days.” They put digestive enzymes in their products to help you assimilate them, not realizing that orally ingested digestive enzymes are themselves digested in the stomach before they can do anything. They say that their electrolytes “ignite the body’s electrical system” — I have no idea what this means, and it certainly is not scientific terminology.

This isn’t the only company that uses this tactic. Beachbody (maker of some great workout DVDs) is an MLM that sells a product called Shakeology in addition to the workout programs. The vast majority of Shakeology customers are also sales affiliates (or “coaches” as they call them). The shake costs $115 A MONTH(a little less if you are a coach), and the claims that these coaches make are ridiculous, unfounded, and irresponsible. They claim that Shakeology cured their IBS, helps them manage their diabetes, got them off a whole slew of medications, etc. (look at their Facebook page for a small sampling). If you say $115 a month is too expensive, they’ll tell you that a) it’s NOT expensive when you consider people spend that much on Starbucks, and b) well, you save $30 if you sign up as a coach under me. I was intrigued, so I figured I would do some research. EVERY page that I came across about Shakeology was written by a Beachbody Coach. If you type in “Shakeology scam,” you are directed to a site with an article that explains why Shakeology is NOT a scam. Type in “Shakeology pyramid”, “shakeology sucks”, you get articles written by Beachbody coaches saying why Shakeology is NOT those things. You need to be careful with these MLMs. They have a way of brainwashing their sales people
Will I sell Isagenix in my gym, probably not. Anything that uses a pyramid scheme for its sellers is very suspect. Also, the vast majority of athletes who come here are under 18 and I don’t feel that this type of product is appropriate. I do believe that natural is better. My grandmother lived to 93 without food supplements or replacements. It was good enough for her and it’s good enough for me.
Hello. I use the Isagenix protein occasionally mostly because I am on an autoship and it keep arriving at my door. I will have to take a closer look at the ingredients. I am not an Isagenix rep, but have only used this product. Actually my favorite type of protein powder is Primal Fuel but it is very costly to ship to Canada. I would love to find a clean-sourced, grass fed whey powder that tastes great and leaves out the other nasty stuff. Suggestions?
I recently read about the various P450 enzymes and their role in detoxifying our bodies…Could pesticides and additives have an adverse effect on these enzymes? I would love to see the research, but my instincts after reading more into the subject say perhaps. The question pertaining to this post concerning Isagenix supporting proper detoxification or not isn’t my point. My point is that the “old school” thinking of nutrition in the light of “every calorie is the same” needs to be thrown out. Isagenix at least supports people in making healthier choices…Kale instead of candy perhaps. You are what you eat, and heck, if Isagenix gets people to drink a nutritional shake vs eating a happy meal, I’m all for it.
THANK YOU! I have several friends who are currently on this and are trying to recruit me. I have hashimotos and have had three babies in five years. I am 60lbs heavier than I was five years ago and have tried everything. I eat clean, gluten free, soy free, refined sugar free, and try to be active (even though I want to sleep my life away) and don’t seem to be getting anywhere. I am at a point of desperation and was very close to caving and trying it been though it goes against everything I believe to be healthy. This article has reiterated the things I was already telling myself. So glad I found you before I caved 😉
After water, fuel yourself with food! It will jumpstart your metabolism after a night of sleep. When doing a mini-cleanse, the advice I give to clients is to skip the bread, cereal or any version of them at breakfast as they will cause your body to retain more water, and instead focus your attention on protein, which will provide satiety. An egg-and-salmon scramble is a perfect combo of protein and metabolism-boosting omega-3s to start the day. Or if you’re on the go, opt instead for an easy gut healthy smoothie.
Actually, they are. I definitely see your point and agree with you, but would expand it to say we are designed for natural foods like fruits and vegetables and animal products. Every culture in history has thrived on animal products, so much so that there has never, even been a culture that has only eaten fruits and veggies. Whey has been used for thousands of years, just not in protein powder form. That’s why I recommend this specific whey, it’s grass-fed and has undergone minimal processing.
i respect your opinions in this article but no where in the links you listed for the shakes does it contain gluten or soy… There are a couple of products that do and they list those on their allergen list and clearly state it on the packaging, so those with allergies can stay away. I too have researched several products on the market, but I mainly go off of how healthy I feel. I used to have migraines 2 to 3 times a week.. they are gone now. Be careful what you read, this company has 2 published studies by Universities and more to come – these studies aren’t just put out by the company they are listed with the universities as well as in other well known and respected publications. I challenge you to research John Anderson the master formulator.. you’ll find his background in science is pretty impeccable.
I too am a health coach and would NEVER use my credentials to further an MLM business. People trust us and come to us when they have no other place to turn. To drain their pocketbooks and push them to a lifestyle that does not give them any recourse but to stay on an unhealthy program or risk gaining all the weight back is unethical and cruel. You are no better than Jenny Craig or Nutri System… geared toward customers for life. Call yourself what you are… an Isagenix Rep, but please don’t confuse that with a HEALTH coach.
Still freaking out… My mental turmoil led me to a Facebook group of other Isagenix cleansers for support—some of whom started their cleanses on the same day as my fiancé and I, while most were people who go on cleanses repeatedly. (Wait, people do this more than once?) Apparently, some even do it for 30 days at a time. I don’t think I’m quite that dedicated to my body or nutritional well-being. I'm happy to report I've lost 5 pounds so far (my fiance lost 12!).
2. Isagenix does not use GMO’s period. Isagenix is an International company and the Non-GMO verified process is mostly US based as other countries have already outlawed or banned GMO’s. They use the purest sources on the planet and I know some of the formulators personally and I know the process of what they go through getting the highest quality ingredients in their products. All the products are 3rd party tested for safety, and purity and Isagenix spends millions of dollars a year making sure this happens. Take the Isagenix Greens for example. The formulator of this product is Dr. Tony O’Donnell and he is an nutritional genius, N.D. and a good friend of mine. He has written over 8 books on natural healing, etc and would never be aligned with a company that had toxic or bad products. That is just one example of literally thousands of holistic doctors, nutritionists, scientists, etc that have aligned themselves with Isagenix.

Dr. Harriet Hall writes more below about the junk science behind Isagenix. In short, there are no proven benefits to using the Isagenix products. Users of the products may offer anecdotes about their success with them, but that is not the same as having independent scientific studies supporting such claims. Of course, Isagenix prohibits reps from making medical claims about the products, but such a prohibition never seems to stop the distributors in any company.

You ask what credentials the blog poster has which is probably reasonable, but then fail to provide your own bonafides or credentials as you proceed to criticize this persons obvious fairly unbiased general information, which by the way does not require the need to have any particular certification to provide for it is available webwide as well as through professional health resources.
While your cells constantly detoxify, consider doing a more formal detox as a spring (or fall) full-body cleanse. These plans, which typically last two to three weeks, include all the essentials to help your liver and other organs optimally detoxify, including protein, nutrients, and a detox-minded eating plan. Our Detox System provides all the nutrient support you need to keep your natural cellular and body detoxification in peak, all in one convenient package.
The recommendations, results and safety of cleanses vary. Extreme cleanses, such as the Master Cleanse, which has you subsist on lemon juice, maple syrup and cayenne pepper for 10 days, can leave you weak and nauseous. You may lose weight in the short term, but are likely to gain back all the weight you lost shortly after returning to your old habits.
But the psychological or spiritual effect can't be discounted, says Dillard. "People love the idea of cleansing, of purification rituals, going to the Ganges, to the spa. It has powerful psychological, religious, spiritual meaning. That has its own positive effect on health. But we need to separate that from saying this is science or good medicine."
Unfortunately, here in the good old USA, you practically need to be a chemist, MD, nutritionist and scientist wrapped up in one who can determine what is or is not good to eat, what is whole and pure. Not only that, but you will need to take a few cooking courses to learn how to cook most of these wonderful whole foods which would be a replacement to the convenient packaged processed variety (Many American’s have long forgotten how to make anything from “scratch” with whole foods since the invention of the cardboard box and food processing). You know, make your own tea using only certified organic non-GMO herbs, weed out which foods have additives hidden in them but look to be good on the pretty packages taunting all natural, healthy, i.e. a simple can of tomato sauce with an ingredient list longer than my 7 year olds Christmas desires.

I am sure if I drank meal replacement shakes and ate protein bars all day every day I would totally lose 10 lbs a month if not more. That’s just a higher priced Slimfast diet. Additionally, the price is crazy. I was quoted $20 a day for ‘meals’ (medium package). Again, you can’t make meals out of shakes, wafers, and supplements! When I asked what was used to sweeten the bars I didn’t get an answer, but I did get a link to the website with the products. I didn’t bother to go, mainly because if someone wants me to buy into what they are selling, they better know their product backwards and forwards and not give me some anecdotal “oh go to the site for specifics I am here to testify that it works!” type response.
Anyone who did the cleans and did lose weight, I can’t even fathom. each shake has 240 calories add in a light dinner say 400 calories, thats 880 calories a day as an intake. I know calories are not always perfect and I don’t pretend to know what I am talking about but I think you would have to be 80 pounds to eat 840 calories a day and not lose weight. At my size I burn approx. 3400 calories a day, hence my weight loss. Add in about 3-500 burned at the gym and I am losing a pound a day in just calories (which I know id not a perfect science)
Dave in reply to your comment “those that Fail aren’t doing the programme properly” let me assure you I am INDEED doing it correctly! I am nearly at the end of my 30 day cleanse and have only lost 3.5kgs and 15cms I have followed it to a T and all I can say is good for you if you and your wife find this product great. I have also found that those that are “Big” to start with on this programme generally loose a lot quite quickly and it cant be a healthy way to loose. Exercise and wholesome food can generally shift the weight if one sticks to that. I just wanted a helping hand and can say that it wasn’t an enjoyable one! And……Tracy, you are definitely right about the sugar! Do people not know that Sugar is reported as being a Killer? Does not take a rocket scientist to see that!
I wrote this Isagenix review because I do not want you to fall for meal replacement shakes, for protein bars, or otherwise gimmicky foods. These companies produce cheap, toxic products and push them off on people as healthy alternatives (to what exactly I’m not sure). Instead, watch my video on how to make a protein shake that is not only unprocessed but actually good for you.
Perhaps your time would be better spent unearthing the problems (scams) in the food production chain, instead of slamming a part of it that is actually scientifically-proven to be helping people. Perhaps it would be more productive if you stuck with accountig and leave the nutrition to the people that actually are Phd’d and published in that field.
But when I consciously choose to travel to far away countries, be accepted by the indigenous people and accept them in return, who hold ancient knowledge and wisdom for the future betterment and evolution of our species, do service to a community, to be part of a combined and soul felt movement for love, understanding, acceptance and peace, then I am SOMEBODY.

He’s gone low carb, by cutting out refined fructose and other sugars. He’s lost 60 pounds, and has kept it off. He eats carbs. It is just that they are natural carbs from fruits and vegetables. He doesn’t experience cravings. He gets plenty of fiber, and he can eat anything that doesn’t have a ton of sugar added to it. He doesn’t eat much bread. He allows himself to have a little piece of cake on a birthday, etc. He’s healthy, happy, energetic. He educated himself. This is just an example. What works for one, might not work for you.


Soybean oil is not the latest health food fad no. But it’s not toxic when from non GMO sources as isagenix states clearly on their website, they do not use GMO sources for any ingredients whether in US or Australia. All the australian products are made in the US by the way. Soybean oil is only dangerous when it’s hydrogenated. Soybean oil contains omega 6 fats. With omega 6 and omega 3 fats it’s the balance that’s important. This is why fish oil supplements are recommended by isagenix, and their produce an omega oil supplement.
Each day, we’re surrounded by numerous pollutants in our environment. Whether it is the food that we consume (most of which contains genetically-modified organisms), the water that we drink, or even the things that we touch, we’re sure to be contaminated somehow. This can be pretty harmful and it can take a huge toll on our bodies; especially internally. With Nutritional Cleansing, you can cure these interior pollutions by purifying the body and removing those unwanted toxins that we’re exposed to so often. What’s great about Nutritional Cleansing is that it’s a win-win: it gives your body the opportunity to rejuvenate and regenerate while also nourishing your body with nutritional products, thus helping your long-term health and wellness to prosper.
Part of why many of us choose to involve ourselves with Isagenix is because of who we were. I don’t think schools should have vending machines. I don’t think companies such as McDonalds and Coca-Cola should be allowed to sponsor sporting events. I admire companies that don’t cut corners in the name of bottom line profits but most of all, I think people deserve to have facts when making decisions…especially regarding their health.
so you say “unbiased” and while you are using info right from the web site, it’s how you presented it that turns it very biased indeed. Isagenix also has many programs and fitness support programs that you can join – all of which to support and encourage people to reach their fitness goals…so I think that dedication should be rewarded…not put down. Just saying.
This is the kind of information I was looking for. I found it very strange how few negative reviews were available for Isagenix system. I am from the “school” of where if something seems too good to be true, it is because it IS too good to be true. 400 dollars for a 30 day system sounds to me like a rotten pyramid scheme with a frantic dietary fad.

“In addition, Isagenix customers in Australia and New Zealand should be assured that all Isagenix products and their labels adhere to GM food labeling requirements and are in accordance with the Food Standards Code. All products can be claimed as “non-GM” or “GM free” in accordance with Australia and New Zealand regulations that prohibit representations about food that are false, misleading or deceptive.”
Fructose from organic sugar beet is used in the shakes. Fructose is much better to be using than artificial sweetners and flavourings which you won’t find in isagenix products at all. Fructose is also low glycemic (32) and increases blood sugar control so is a better choice for diabetics. You won’t find high fructose corn syrup in any of the products. Details can be found in this referenced article http://www.isagenixhealth.net/fructose-is-not-toxic-and-can-help-control-blood-sugar/
You ask what credentials the blog poster has which is probably reasonable, but then fail to provide your own bonafides or credentials as you proceed to criticize this persons obvious fairly unbiased general information, which by the way does not require the need to have any particular certification to provide for it is available webwide as well as through professional health resources.
Kale is high in fiber, phytochemicals, and protein. It helps reduce cholesterol and prevents breast, ovarian, colon, bladder, and prostate cancers. Due to the presence of kaempferol and quercetin, kale is a superb antioxidant and anti-inflammatory agent. It has also been found to help in the reduction of body fat and the maintenance of good cardiovascular health (18).
Why it Works: Water keeps the contents inside your digestive tract moving along. Your body needs water in order to pee and sweat. Both mechanisms are essential for your body to excrete waste. Water also creates what’s known as diet-induced thermogenesis. This means your body burns calories in order to process whatever is coming in, including water. One study also found that subjects who drank water throughout the day saw a 2% to 3% increase in calorie expenditure.
Not everyone has fresh raw milk at their fingertips and some of the other ingredients, like grass fed meat. But you can get a lot of protein from organic produce. The big thing about Isagenix is the amino acids. Amino acids are protein. But you can lose weight with organic bone broth too. There are a hundred ways to lose weight without eating synthetic concoctions.
My very sweet friend has been suckered in by Isagenix. I have always known that “cleansing” and “toxins” were lies and used to sell products, but she raves about Isa being a whole food and full of nutrition. She is a nice person, so I was willing to hear her out even though I hate MLMs. All I had to do was read the ingredients list on the shakes – who actually thinks this is healthy? I tried googling and very little comes up about the products that isn’t positive. My friend added me to some Isagenix support groups on Facebook and what I have seen in them frightens me. It is cultish. These people are unnaturally positive. They do not necessarily make health claims, but they “share their personal experiences,” which end up being health claims. New members come in asking questions like, “I am hypoglycemic. Should I cleanse?” People tell them to cleanse, anyway and not doing so would be worse for them. They tell people that they need to take this stuff while pregnant (um – taking too much vitamin A while pregnant is dangerous, even if it is beta carotene). They talk about how doctors just don’t know anything about nutrition. Really? And THEY do? None of these people are physicians or nutritionists, and their knowledge of human nutrition comes only from reading Isagenix propaganda. They talk about how the FDA is corrupt so the fact that it isn’t FDA approved is a good thing. Are you kidding me? I am genuinely concerned about people I know and love and it scares me how they are more willing to listen to these companies that are profiting handsomely from them, than they are to listen to friends, family… And doctors. I wish I knew what to do. Thank you for providing this article. I hope more people will read it.
Quite a stimulating thread you have here! I just found your site doing some other research and stumbled upon it. I use Isagenix products (among others…of course, there are other fine products out there) in my nutritional regimen. My mother has been taking their flagship product, Product B for a couple years now. During this time (after 1 1/2 yrs), she was able to get off virtually all her medications for pain from a spinal condition and a digestive condition. Product B was the only new thing she introduced in her daily regimen. She feels younger and has more energy than before. She is now 93. But, this is mainly what I wanted to clarify. Your call regarding your question about their products being certified as GMO free. I made a similar call myself early on asking if their ingredients are all organic. (At the time, I was inquiring just about Product B). I was given a more in depth answer than you were. I was told that some of their ingredients are sourced from outside of the U.S. where other countries don’t have the same organic certification process that we have here, so it would not be possible to declare them as “certified” organic. However, she gave me their very detailed site where it declared that the step-by-step process for PB met or surpassed organic standards. As an example, the co-founder and master formulator, master botanist and master herbalist, John Anderson, happens to own land in the Himalayas where his herbs that he uses for PB are very well protected at their pristine source. So, unfortunately, when getting answers from a customer service individual, sometimes they may be just the short answer, the one you might want to hear, but not the whole answer. Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that if something is organic, it is not allowed to be GMO.
“Dr. Lustig uses the term “liver toxin” to describe fructose, but he’s also CAREFUL to note that it’s not fructose per se that is toxic. There are instances when your body can use it, e.g. post-workout or fasting-induced glycogen depletion. The problem is that most people consume so much of it that it turns toxic by virtue of the fact that your body cannot use the excess. It simply gets shuttled into your cells and stored as fat. So it’s the massive doses you’re exposed to that make it dangerous.”
One of my children takes lessons from a business pushing Isagenix as a way to increase fitness. I’m going to have to respond directly and if they push back, I’ll just provide the URL to this webpage. MLMs have always been around and will continue as long as we allow them. Kind of like cults are the price we pay for religious freedom. I think the more savvy MLMs are figuring out to jump to the next thing (as in the MD who started Isagenix) before serious analysis and critiques come out. But thanks to the Internet and angels (thank you Sequence Inc. and contributors) who will keep outing them, these snake oil salesmen will have to be faster than ever at duping unsuspecting clients. The simple fact is that “if it sounds to good to be true, it is.” And there will never be a replacement for the simple mantra from “In Defense of Food. Eat food. Mostly plants. Not too much. “
Just to try it, my wife and I started using the diet about a month and a half ago. I’m an IT guy, and my wife is a nurse. We are very busy and love that it’s a quick and easy meal in the mornings and lunch. During this last month or so I’ve lost 30lbs. I eat way less sugar and now I eat way less foods. I’m never hungry and I feel great. The cleanse days were rough at first, but now they’re fine. I don’t sell, and I’m not some advertisement person. Just a guy that is happy to share my success.
The ingredients in Isagenix Cleanse for Life are known to promote weight loss and to have a cleansing effect on the body. There is some question regarding the amounts of the ingredients, and even the safety of some of them to the overall health of the consumer, but as a whole, it appears as though most consumers have found Isagenix Cleanse for Life to play a positive role in their journey to their weight loss goals.
“A small amount of fructose, such as the amount found in most vegetables and fruits, is not a bad thing. In fact, there is evidence that a little bit may help your body process glucose properly. However, consuming too much fructose at once seems to overwhelm the body’s capacity to process it. The diets of our ancestors contained only very small amounts of fructose. These days, estimates are that about 10% of the modern diet comes from fructose.
In fact, stop eating at 7 pm, if possible. By ending your eating by 7 pm, you’ll set yourself up to begin burning fat first thing in the morning. Not just burning calories—burning fat. As you go through the Zero Belly Cleanse, you’ll experience a sense of control over your diet, your body and your health. One of the reasons so many cultures impose periods of cleansing on their people is that it helps to bring a sense of order to life.
The sad truth is, due to genetic circumstances SOME of us will have to rely upon products like Isagenix; choose the best from a questionable selection of chemically altered supplements to get what we need. I have PCOS and have found that I should not consume processed foods which only adds to my problems but there are also whole foods that also make it worst. I use to be just like Dani but I had to find a middle ground that worked more effectively for me.
Very well said Tim Edge. Opinions and even some form of clinical information is fine, but at the end of the day what gives anyone the right to chastise others for choosing to walk a certain path in life? Oh and yes, medical practitioners can support, research, recommend and endorse all they like, that didn’t help the sufferers of thalidomide did it?
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