Personally, I found Dani Stout’s article and entries to be educated, informative, and unbiased. Really, what is with the insults? Dani is a professional in the industry who is giving us quality advice for free. If I didn’t understand something like a lot of people commenting here, rather than being a non believer screaming insults, I would certainly be picking her brain as to why things are fact, and educate yourselves. I find it comical, I really do. Why? I am educated in another field, yet Dani has given us so much educated advice about nutrition, that I feel I could formulate a healthy diet plan just on the information she has provided in this blog! Save your money, we are being educated for free if you care to have an open mind.
So how do you explain the rise in autism, cancer, diabetes, chronic illness in America? Why not put you forensic skills to work investigating this issue? And these all started to increase right around the same time as the introduction of GMOS, increased vaccination, antibiotic farming, pesticide laden farming, etc… And great I won’t attack you but you are the one who is attacking anyone here who has had a positive experience with Isagenix, because they must be a shill…thats what you called me…that’s not an attack? And interesting that when I tried to reply with my previous email I could not but when I changed it I could…
I have to question anyone’s credibility who makes an ignorant statement that wholefoods is causing obesity. Clearly, these individuals are misinformed. ANY food in excess may lead to obesity. However, health is not just about weight. There are many variables which determine good health. If one where to eat 8 cups of brown rice a day 8 bananas and 14 avocados a day, YES this could lead to weight gain. It is still important that when eating whole or raw foods that we are eating a balanced diet. Even eating too much of the same greens may have an adverse affect on the body.
A friend of mine has posted his recent weight loss on facebook and as a result of my curiousity has sent me all the information on Isagenix. Thank you for providing me with food for thought. I am not sure if any of the comments so far have shared this interesting link as I lost interest half way through the scroll bar (amazed I made it that far). There are only so many times you can read the words “due dilligence” and not notice the obvious religious overtones in the responses of the converted which generally leads to judgemental accusations “evil” brought about by ignorance and biase and strengthened by relationships and profit. At any length I have found the links below to support your claims and certainly define your struggle.
I started Isagenix about 5 months potpartum and today have stopped. It gives me stomach crams and I feel AWFUL. I have Hashimotos Thyroiditis and I have not been able to keep it under control since starting this program. I am actually really excited to going back to meal prepping! thank you for this article. I thought I was crazy the way I was feeling but now I get why!
Dani doesn’t need credentials to read a label Leisa and if you weren’t so brainwashed by the whole “we’re a family that want to be free and healthy and live life crap” then you would realise this too. Recently my girlfriend who works as a physiotherapist at a top clinic in Melbourne and knows a fair bit about Nutrition was pushed samples of these products by one of probably 10,000 ‘unique’ sellers in Australia . She mentioned she had fructose intolerance as diagnosed through thorough testing and the seller said “oh you’ll be fine there’s no fructose in these” she didn’t even know what was in her own products. Stop being little passengers in a world where you can create your own path and get some thoughts of your own Leisha and crew. Its a shit product on the same lines as progenex and herbalife.
You ask what credentials the blog poster has which is probably reasonable, but then fail to provide your own bonafides or credentials as you proceed to criticize this persons obvious fairly unbiased general information, which by the way does not require the need to have any particular certification to provide for it is available webwide as well as through professional health resources.
There is absolutely no rationale for the particular combination of ingredients in their products. They have LOTS of different products, and have included just about every nutrient and herbal remedy in existence: 242 of them! Some of these we know to be useless, some are potentially harmful, and we have no idea how the particular ingredients in the mixtures might interact for better or for worse.
So now all of a sudden, you don’t know what I am talking about. In other words,you don’t have an answer. Let me refresh your memory. You said I probably have a leaky gut issue when I’m actually allergic to various veggies. You assumed that I eat horribly and I have been on a whole foods diet for 12 years with minimal success. I stated that based on other environmental issues and genetics that some people such as myself can not solely rely upon whole foods alone and will have to try scientific/medical intervention to help. If you read my previous post you will see I gave you plenty of background info to help you understand my stance on the issue. (post dated 8/4) You have stated what I have already considered along with specialist who share your same views, alternative holistic professionals who have taken this journey with me. Whole foods doesn’t work for everyone for every case. I stated to you that I have a severe genetic form of PCOS, which affects weight lose among other things. I am waiting to hear what evidence, backed up by medical journal research and not bloggers’ research, that support your view. I have lived it to prove my point I’m still waiting to here legitimate evidence to support yours. Some people may have to try a product such as Arbonne or Isagenix to reach their goal or to fill the gap.
Thanks for the article, Dani. I really appreciate the insight. I am always entertained by the constant back and forth. I tried Isagenix because a friend of mine has been using it and having a great deal of success. Since January, I have been trying to really get my health and weight under control. I had a real unhealthy lifestyle (eating like crap and very little exercise) and was bound and determined to get it under control. I started Isagenix in February (after a solid month of clean eating and exercising 6 days a week), and experienced a great deal of success in the first week and a half. I had more energy and my body was feeling great. However, after that first week and a half, I experienced serious hunger and harsh digestion reactions. It was really a struggle to follow the plan and all of the suggestions that my friend gave me. I felt like my body was holding onto everything I ate (or drank) – I was exhausted all of the time, dizzy, and constantly hungry.
I would also like to share that I’m new to Isagenix (a couple weeks) AND I agree with you on some of the product ingredients. I even wrote an email to their support about their use of Palm Kernal Oil, not because of the ingredient itself, but because there’s a lot of controversy surrounding the areas where it’s grown. I’m not here to defend Isagenix. As I mentioned earlier, I agree. I read one comment earlier in which the person eluded to ISA as a transition. I would have to say that though it’s a shame some of these ingredients appear on some of the products, I’m happy to help some people take a step in the right direction. My mother for instance, addicted to coffee and sweets, can’t stand the thought of veggies, let alone raw and just in general practices poor eating habits. Yet, she’s feeling better already with ISA. Is it perfect? I’m not saying it is. I do hope, however, that it inspires her and other family members to continue on a path toward greater health and understanding of nutrition. But then, that’s not what what your blog post was about. It wasn’t created to argue the transitions of those in poorer health. It was simply created as an en devour into questionable ingredients. I will continue using it personally even, but I do so as part or a larger plan of general healthy eating practices. Are those practices perfect? No, sadly they aren’t. Personally, I’m doing the best I can, and the feedback I’m getting from family is that they’re feeling better. Is it a perfect solution? Again, nope, but it is a stepping stone towards one in my opinion. I will still also to encourage my family and friends to eat as organic as possible.
The only thing I could possibly say negatively about this is that your replies to these Isagenix trolls can be condescending and a bit rude, but I also see how you could be getting frustrated. I’m frustrated just reading their uninformed ravings. We should be encouraging knowledge and learning in a non-judgmental and healthy way, but sometimes you just gotta realize you’re beating your head against a wall.
Our bodies arn’t really designed to thrive on ‘whey’ meal replacement shakes though. We are designed for natural foods, like whole fruits and vegetables. In nature, meal replacement shakes and protein bars don’t grow on trees. Imagine if there were no corporations, or big businesses trying to sell you things. What would you naturally eat then? Take away all the bullshit and see for yourself 🙂
This is where I realised that this review is actually not biased. Were you being ironic? Although you have put a lot of work into sourcing articles and quotes on the internet to validate your review, I cannot help but notice the tone of the article is negative and there are no positive points – pros for all the cons. That is where the credibility of the review falls down. Surely something in the ingredients is actually good? Your stance on pretty much everything is pretty much all-or-nothing thinking (see ‘splitting’ in psychology terminology).
Here is an example of what I have read in these feeds: As much as I would like to MAKE AN UNEDUCATED GUESS that the deniers are probably democrats or don’t vote, I have absolutely no data to support my crazy statement and could have also made an assumption based on the personal filter/belief that all or most democrats never or can’t back their decisions with facts. Presenting facts to support a concept or product is not an action influenced by a group you belong to. Presenting unbiased facts is honest research. Everyone should be supportive of honest research. Rather than getting upset, use your energy to seriously find research to support what you beleive. Dani has done so and continues to address ethically those who disagree with her. This entire feed is so educational and entertaining on many levels. Amazing how so many people resort to name calling when they interpret something as offensive. I am sharing this sight with my daughter and students to learn how to debate and how not to debate, good and bad research, the balanced and unbalanced person, Gorilla Marketing, and the list goes on! Keep this feed alive!
Besides losing that weight, Leigh Thorne also wants to rid her body of any toxins. That's why the Isagenix Nutritional Cleanse interests her. This system of shakes, snacks and beverages promises to get rid of all the junk in your system, and those who use it also, apparently, lose weight--and fast. Leigh says some of her relatives on the Isagenix plan are living proof.
Are there not more pressing issues in the world today that deserve our upmost attention??? Our organic thought and acceptance that there is only, has only ever been, and will only ever be ONE authority on these things? The authority that ONE has in regards to the ONLY relationship that ONE ever has? The ONE relationship with the entirety of the earth and every form of life upon it?
The federal regulations that define the term natural flavors and enforce its correct use ensure that it’s used appropriately by manufacturing companies, and not as a way to hide ingredients that might be considered unhealthy. By listing flavoring compounds as natural flavors, consumers are being told what they do (impart flavor), while also making labels appear simpler and less cluttered. In addition, using natural flavors on labels helps to prevent competing manufacturers from creating copy-cat versions of products.
Shakes, fads, and quick fixes are temporary fixes to a bigger issue in my opinion. Yeah, I can detox, drink shakes and a few healthy meals a day but am I willing to do that for the rest of my life so I can lose weight? Hell no. I’ll stick to eating 6 times a day, eating my dozen egg whites and veggies, chicken and tilapia. I’d rather invest my money in real food.
One of the most unsettling things about Isagenix, along with some other high-profile diet programs, is the use of random unqualified people to sell the product. I suppose that’s the nature of MLM, but a colleague of mine managed to flip me some extremely crazy screenshots of one Isagenix salesperson’s posts on Facebook, and they were completely outrageous.
I find this article interesting and the arguments even more interesting. Isagenix, like many other similar systems teaches portion control and an introduction to healthy food choices. The key term being “choices”. The outrageous price to do this program keeps people accountable. I have a close friend who tried this and stopped because she created free time in her life to have her own garden. She buys local- in season fruit, and pays attention to her portions and food choices. That’s all any lifestyle change and diet is. It’s a choice. Everything you need is truly available to everyone. It’s up to someone to make the choice to research what they need. I have food allergies and a disease in which certain foods make my symptoms worse. Guess what- healthy eating, food choices, my overall lifestyle, and exercise makes all my symptoms fade, I have more energy, and m body has what it needs and I’m really fit. Shakes and bars- unless they are raw- can’t be as healthy as raw food. Period. Thank you for posting this article. Thank you for challenging those that are too guilty for spending too much money on this to admit it isn’t this that can change their life, they can take responsibility for themselves and see the same results! I live in Maui and I can guarantee the 40-50 year olds with chiseled bodies don’t use any of these programs. They eat raw, healthy, realistic portions, and exercise. They are happy. They make time for their happiness.
Any research paper produced by a group, no matter how independent they appear, will be suspect if the research is funded by the producing company. No company would publish results that show their product to be bad. It just doesn’t fit with the bottom line. A company will only spend what is required to convince the people, who need to be convinced, that their product is good. Long term, expensive research projects are not in the best interest of the company.
I just wanted to thank you for your review of Isagenix. I have been doing some research because some close friends have been pushing this product on me. However, with both parents as personal trainers and a history of being in top shape, I know that this is not the right choice. I’m too nice to let my friends down without some real facts to back up my reasons why and your review gave me a lot to work with!
Some diets and detoxes are so extreme, the body needs protein and if it does not aquire that through good nutrition it will start to break down muscle tissue. You may think it’s fat and fluid loss that you see on the scales and it might be, but it also might be the breakdown of your lean muscle mass. Lean muscle mass is so important for your metabolism and burning calories.
I dunno even know where you pulled the ingredients list from! It’s so inaccurate. So what if you are a holistic coach it doesn’t mean anything. First of, your source is not accurate. I am into supplements and truly believe in whole food and clean eating. However, Isagenix is by far the safest when comes to Herbalife, Shakeology, Nuskin, Usana and Unicity when comes to toxicity and percentage of chemical compounds. Like you mentioned, US soil is depleted so where else do you get the nutrients; plants, fruits? LOL
This is my concern. The majority of people fall for the hype (I know I did), with the promise of a life changing experience, both physically and financially. I did not try and get any of our friends on to this before I had completed the 30 days. Now that I have finished, morally I will not be advocating Isagenix. I could not push this onto someone, knowing that the results are unpredictable.
One of the biggest problems I have had with Isagenix, is the lack of medical knowledge those selling it have…. I went on Isagenix after being told how fantastic it was…. I had a VIOLENT allergic reaction, esophagus burning, migraine so severe I almost went into the ER for… and the gal selling it kept telling me it was a “detox” symptom… after the next shake, esophagus burned again… she called someone “higher up,” and they kept telling me to slow down, not to take the accelerator, etc.etc…. One more time and I was done.. had to take benadryl, heartburn meds.. anything to stop the burning….. Now, I realize that my case is rare; however, unless these people are MD’s, nutritionists, or have clear access to doctors…. PLEASE don’t try to tell me others these are detox symptoms, when clearly they have no idea what is going on …The same thing happened to someone else about two months ago…..Scary…. When I wrote one negative comment about my experience with Isagenix on facebook, I was blocked and later told by a distributor, “Isagenix doesn’t want any negative comments posted about their products, so I had to delete it.” That sealed the deal for me, and I then began to see that it was about their reputation and MLM, rather than a person’s health…. I appreciate that so many are dropping pounds and feeling better, but seriously… we live in a free country, free speech.. you put your product out there, expect both negative and positive reviews……. FYI.. after seeing some of the ingredients in the isagenix shake…… one of them is ASPERIGILLIUS, which is a form of mold.. I am HIGHLY allergic to mold… and yes, there is fructose, which is the first ingredient…. I was told by my doctor, which is a functional medicine doctor that I trust… to be cautious of some of these types of products that help people detox and dump weight quickly… If they go off… it can be disastrous….It can throw your adrenals, thyroid glands into fatigue…….
I have been living with two people who sell it, for the past 3 months. One of them eats pizza all of the time (2-3 times a week) and he also takes a lot of prescription drugs, ie. Ambien, anti-anxiety meds and others, the product does not seem to help him, obviously. The other sells it full-time and his motivation seems to be money and becoming on of the ‘millionaires’, you know, like the good ‘ole Amway days, remember the ‘millionaires’. He doesn’t seem to care that much about the actual product, except he works night and day on his sales ability and is quite aggressive in convincing people of one thing or another.
So, I am going to finish my 30 day Isagenix cleanse (with questionable ingredients), apply intent towards this “tool” being a useful ally towards the transition to a healthier, happier, and more heartfelt lifestyle. And this coming November when Im sitting on Mother Earths bare and natural surface in the Ecuadorian Amazon under the “Eyebrows of the Andes” with the Secoya Elders, learning and experiencing true rainforest medicine and ancient wisdom in a place where the word “organic” does not exist, while the smoke and destruction of industry that threatens the survival of our very race grows ever closer decimating all in its path, I will think. Organically.
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I am way late to this party but I wanted to get some feedback…. I have been doing isagenix now for 6 days, today is day one of a two day fast. I feel, well, I just feel awful. The initial 5 days with the shakes and one healthy homemade meal was fine but today, oh, today is not good. My wife wants me to give this the old college try but I am concerned. This feels like a starvation diet with suspect supplements. I may be wrong, I am NO expert. It is alarming that I cannot find any independent studies on isagenix. It is equally concerning that reading the responses to this review, there is a cult like vibe associated with this diet. I don’t want to give up coffee and beer forever and eat isagenix snack logs, isagenix nuggets and shakes the rest of my life! Not to mention it is expensive as… well, its really expensive!
I do encourage you to keep at what your doing tho. Despite im one of those rare exceptions where things have to be completely clean doesnt mean you shouldnt be at least attempting to educate people of how bad the toxicity and how bad food in general has become this generation. However I will say isagenix is not as bad as you think it is. Not by a long shot.
Now, your research leaves a little to be desired. I do not see your sources as to how or where any of your rancid or toxic claims come from. What scientific labs did you use to test these products? What independent University studies are you referring to in the statements you are making? Should we all believe your personal opinion as fact just because you said so? Well, I know a lot of people that will give you their word that bigfoot is real.
My seventh grade debate teacher told me I’d make a good lawyer and I appreciate the compliment coming from you as well! I think it’s incredibly commendable that you stopped using/recommend Isagenix once you found out the truth about it. There are so many people who still recommend and sell it, fully knowing (and having read this review) that it’s not a healthy product. It takes a lot to walk away from something like that, especially when you’re making money from it.
1) Reacting the way you do in most of your response comments makes you sound condescending and arrogant. While I understand that you are extremely knowledgeable in the nutrition field, responding to comments in such a manner and basically insulting one’s intelligence of comprehension is very much uncalled for and unprofessional as the author of this article.
I came across your site because I wanted to read your reviews on Shakeology and Isagenix. I have a very good friend and a family member who use both, respectively and SWEAR by them and I am very concerned about what they really DONT KNOW about the products they’re consuming! And they are VERY intelligent individuals and super health conscious! If you’re supplements can’t help reverse your health issue…no matter what it is, i.e.: all auto-immune diseases, actually diseases of ANY kind, even cancer, then I’m not interested. I had Lupus for 5 years….I no longer have it because of what I’m doing and how I’ve changed WHAT I’m eating……especially GLUTEN….and the supplements I’m taking. I reversed my Lupus in less than 90 days and people don’t understand that you CAN reverse any health issue with REAL nutrition AND REAL supplementation.
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Furthermore…… to all the people out there who have been quite arrogant in some of these posts, but saying that Dani knows nothing…………. I do not know this lady, but I do know my family GP very well and i have no reason to doubt her. My recent blood results did show a change in the Vitamin D level, but that was purely down to the fact I had a Vitamin D injection to cover me for 6 months (rather than take daily supplements). Other than that…. NO Change anywhere. I can honestly say, this system did not work for me.
7. Finally, You know your goal well, (IE, to become a bodybuilder, just to lose weight, general health). You aren’t going to become an IFBB bodybuilding pro from using Isagenix. It doesn’t have what you need to sustain that lifestyle. Want your pro card? This isn’t for you. Want help with a pesky 10 pounds, this might be for you. Want to lose 100 lbs? Isagenix can help. Yes.. help (refer to #4). Want help with changing eating habits, this could work for you.. if you educate yourself in the process. All this is going to do, is help you wipe the slate clean to begin new healthier habits. I can help you, but you have to first, be willing to help yourself, including learning.
If my students wrote a review like this they would get an F. The ingredients may come from Isagenix but your “facts” are not supported and are conflicting. Despite saying the use genetically modified ingredients you later state that you “doubt” that the products are non-GMO. That alone brings all other statements into question. You should back up your statements of the “toxic ingredients” with references, or are they specifically your opinion? Finally, you have neglected to reference your education/expertise.
Saying that all vegetable oils are “inflammatory” is nonsense. It’s true that omega three fatty acids alter the pathway of eicosanoid production towards less inflammatory forms, and they can be very useful for people in states of chronic inflammation (RA, obesity). But n-6 fatty acids are also an important part of human nutrition. Inflammation is a normal and healthy response to injury and disease, you’re using the word as if it’s an unnatural, evil phenomenon.
A nutritional cleanse might be a way to move nutrients through the body very quickly. A cleanse might include eating all fruits and vegetables, or drinking some type of liquid that will increase transit time in the digestive tract. Cleanses can be harmful to your body because they can increase the elimination of electrolytes such as sodium and potassium. Please check with your physician or registered dietitian about the healthiest way to do a cleanse.
I like to believe the “thinking” person prefers to make informed choices and decisions about what they put into their bodies, or not. So, I can’t comment on the reasons for the choices people make though I do question the validity and reliability of those reasons from a researcher’s perspective. I can share why I found Isagenix appealing (quick easy fix) and equally unappealing. I’m an early adopter of many things, however, when no (proven) independent clinical studies exist to support something, I tend to smell a rat. I know there is anecdotal evidence and millions of photos to support Isagenix. That’s called the perfect marketing strategy.
The Isagenix diet will not deprive your body of any nutrients. Hence, you can follow your regular exercise routine or start working out whenever you get time. Warm-ups, walking, running, jogging, cycling, yoga, dancing, playing a sport, etc. will help secrete the good hormones. These, in turn, trigger metabolism and help you lose weight. You will look and feel good after a good workout of at least about 30 minutes.
I really enjoyed reading this article. I have been on isagenix now for nearly 2 months and let me tell you I was so excited to try this as I saw some amazing testimonials. The first two weeks were absolute hell, I was hungry ALL THE TIME! I was tired, had bad headaches, hardly slept and the list goes on. My first “cleanse” day I nearly fainted as sometimes my blood pressure drops dramatically if I don’t eat and I didn’t know how I would drive home. Its great for people who want a kick start in something however once I read all the ingredients in all the products I am kicking myself for falling for it. Theres so many horrible ingredients in these products. there is no magical cure as they claim helps with weight loss and energy, I actually have less energy. I lost 5 kilos the first 2 weeks, went away on a short weekend break and put it all back on straight away just by not having the shakes. I would recommend people really do your research, it is not cheap. I spend over 900 on this program for 2 MONTHS and I am really upset at myself for not reading more about it before signing up. they also make you sign up for auto ship so you get “discounted products” which is a load of cr**. I will not be continuing on this program.
It was as if no one had actually read what I wrote. No one bothered to address any of my specific criticisms. No one even tried to defend Isagenix's false claims that toxicity accounts for most disease, that the body protects itself from toxins by coating them with fat, and that internal organs become clogged and deteriorate if you don't cleanse. No one offered any evidence that “detoxification” improves human health. No one tried to identify any of the alleged toxins or show that they are actually removed. No one tried to provide any rationale for the particular combination of ingredients (all 242 of them!) in Isagenix products. No one questioned my assertion that “no caffeine added” is inaccurate labeling because green tea, which is added, contains caffeine. No one commented when I observed that the amount of vitamin A in these products is dangerous and goes against the recommendations of the Medical Letter. No one offered any evidence that more weight is lost by adding Isagenix to a low-calorie diet and exercise. I offered some alternative explanations that might account for people believing that Isagenix is effective when it isn't; no one commented on that.