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It’s an interesting point about manipulating information to prove your point when money is involved. This point applies equally to people that might perceive a system like Isagenix as being in competition with their services as a Holistic Health Coach. When, instead it could be used as a complementary tool, that could be used in conjunction with eating whole organic foods, to help people change their lifestyle and get the results they are looking for.
Every time you eat, your body digests the foods you consume, then absorbs and transports nutrients to all of your body’s cells through the blood stream. Your cells can either use these nutrients right away or store them for later. When you consume more food than your body needs at any one time, it can lead to a back-up of excess nutrients for your metabolism to manage.
The “heart healthy” diet is ridiculous – it consists of grains, low-fat foods, minimal meat, and processed food byproducts. It’s the opposite of what people should eat for heart health. Like I said in my other comment, when you’re testing against horrible diets in the first place, it’s not surprising that the outcome is positive. But it doesn’t mean that the products are ideal.
Wow. Just wow. Dani, first of all – my hat is off to you for sticking to your guns. Secondly – I totally agree – eating healthy organic locally sourced food is your best bet for health – that and unlearning some serious misinformation about fat, cholesterol and sugar. Finally, it is an unfortunate reality that many things in life are corrupted by the profit motive – at times to such an extent that decent people are caught up in the craze to just make a quick buck or two. It is also unfortunate that so many people are caught in the trap of ignorance, poverty or both – it is not cheap to feed a family on really healthy food, especially meat, produce. I’ve researched these topics and also the history behind American industrialized agriculture (e.g. Food, Inc., King Corn, etc) and am appalled at the corruption and overall insanity that has engulfed this nation. You can go just about anywhere else in the world and get healthy food quite easily – a expat friend of mine lives in Uruguay and is very happy with the situation there. So, hang in there and keep up the good work on your blog and getting the truth out. Do you know of Chris Kresser and his work?
If my students wrote a review like this they would get an F. The ingredients may come from Isagenix but your “facts” are not supported and are conflicting. Despite saying the use genetically modified ingredients you later state that you “doubt” that the products are non-GMO. That alone brings all other statements into question. You should back up your statements of the “toxic ingredients” with references, or are they specifically your opinion? Finally, you have neglected to reference your education/expertise.
Many people feel the effects of these various toxins and do not realize what is the actual cause. As I always say, one must discover the root source of the problem, and once this is understood, a person can work to effectively remove many of these toxins from the body with a cellular detox. However, I do not suggest attempting detox on your own, especially if you’re struggling with a health condition that is affecting the quality of your life. To safely and effectively go through the detox process you need a trained practitioner trained who can coach you each step of the way. Many hire coaches to improve their golf or dating game, why not a coach to take your health to the next level? Good health is truly a precious gift, I know all too well.
Still freaking out… My mental turmoil led me to a Facebook group of other Isagenix cleansers for support—some of whom started their cleanses on the same day as my fiancé and I, while most were people who go on cleanses repeatedly. (Wait, people do this more than once?) Apparently, some even do it for 30 days at a time. I don’t think I’m quite that dedicated to my body or nutritional well-being. I'm happy to report I've lost 5 pounds so far (my fiance lost 12!).
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Funny how you’ve asked this question a dozen times and no one can answer it. I did the same thing on their Facebook page months ago and all anyone could say was that the multi vitamins were all whole food and Isagenix didn’t use anything synthetic. Lie. I was also told that they’re not certified organic because they get products from all over the world, some countries which do not certify. So if that’s the case, label the products with the ingredients that apparently ARE organic. The ingredients you’ve listed are not healthy, I’m sure some of the ingredients are… but seeing as the people consuming these products are most likely coming from a diet of McDonalds – they believe it’s healthy. They should get it right and say it’s healthIER than the crap they used to eat.
A few commenters expressed concerns about the product. One commenter said the Isagenix company representative couldn't answer questions about origin of ingredients and quality control. There have been no controlled studies. Where is the evidence? How do we know it is safe? Long-term results remain to be seen. How many can maintain this restrictive lifestyle for years? Why isn't Isagenix being regulated by the FDA? “I am a little concerned about the way some people discuss this product in almost cult-like fashion. It makes me wonder if there are mind-control drugs in this stuff.”
My wife started using Isagenix about 5 months ago & not long after I noticed massive mood swings, she has lost quite a bit of weight & looks great but she now seems obsessed with losing much more weight. The mood swings & her self obsessiveness have finally taken their toll & she has now decided that she has lost the love in our relationship & has decided to leave. She knows she has changed mentally but she doesn’t believe it is from using Isagenix. I asked her to stop taking Isagenix to see if her mental state changed but she seems drawn to it like a drug & has no intention of stopping.
He’s gone low carb, by cutting out refined fructose and other sugars. He’s lost 60 pounds, and has kept it off. He eats carbs. It is just that they are natural carbs from fruits and vegetables. He doesn’t experience cravings. He gets plenty of fiber, and he can eat anything that doesn’t have a ton of sugar added to it. He doesn’t eat much bread. He allows himself to have a little piece of cake on a birthday, etc. He’s healthy, happy, energetic. He educated himself. This is just an example. What works for one, might not work for you.
The only thing I could possibly say negatively about this is that your replies to these Isagenix trolls can be condescending and a bit rude, but I also see how you could be getting frustrated. I’m frustrated just reading their uninformed ravings. We should be encouraging knowledge and learning in a non-judgmental and healthy way, but sometimes you just gotta realize you’re beating your head against a wall.
I found this blog looking for information on Isagenix. I received a voicemail from what I am assuming was one of their sales people. I get a lot of people wanting me to sell “health” products. I don’t sell anything, but before I have to get into a heated debate about why I won’t sell their product, I do some research. The only flaw I found from you in this thread is wasting your time responding to the Isagenix sycophants. You can’t argue with crazy.
I’m so pleased with the results of doing the 9 Day Cleanse. I LOST 15 lbs!!!!! I noticed a difference in how my clothes fit and especially when I put on my winter coat. It used to be tight on me and now it’s noticeably more loose. Plus I lost 29 inches! The most inches lost was in my waist (5 inches), abdomen (3.5 inches) and upper thighs (3.5 inches). I lost 1.5 inches in my butt so still a ways to go there.
Most of the shakes contain around 11 grams of sugar. If we assume half of that is fructose and people are consuming two shakes a day, plus one of the snack bars, like this one: http://www.isagenix.com/~/media/product/isalean-bar/isalean-bar-fact-panels/us-en-fact-panel-isalean-bar-chocolate-decadence.pdf which contains fructose and a whopping 16 grams of sugar – a person would be consuming at a minimum 20 grams of fructose per day – not even including any they’re consuming from actual food! And it’s worth mentioning that PaleoLeap is including naturally occurring fructose, ya know, from an unprocessed, whole food. Not from an overly processed shake or “IsaLean bar.” For someone who likely already has issues with blood sugar, insulin, liver function, etc – they should be consuming nowhere near this much fructose.
So today she finally decided I needed to try her gross cleanse drink. She literally poured me the smallest sip possible and I drank it. I have felt like absolute shit since then and thrown up once. ONE SIP I'm all for being healthy but that is not healthy. Who knows what that shit really is. Pretending something is getting rid of toxins because you're throwing up and feel like shit is ridiculos.
I will not disagree with you that a clean, whole foods organic diet is the best way to go. No argument there. Nor am I a user of Isagenix or a promoter of it. I live in an area with lots of people promoting the local sources only, organic only, and often vegan or cruelty-free lifestyles. And I always find it interesting that many will speak out vehemently against processed foods, products like Isagenix, Herbalife, etc. because of ingredients like the ones you have listed in your article, and they will defend the necessity to regulate the food you put in your body with an intense level of passion (which is good, what we put into our bodies is of the utmost importance). But then they will pump their bodies full of synthetic, often dangerous and sometimes even fatal, chemicals and hormones with a long history of horrendous side effects (such as birth control and vaccines), without a second thought.
You have an interesting perspective on my previous post about what the scientific community is saying about Isagenix. I can see how you might arrive at the opinion that all the experts are involved with Isagenix and therefore must be lying simply in order to promote the company and its products, thus putting their credentials and reputations in jeopardy if they are wrong.
I’m a little bitter about this. I agree, Isagenix is a terrible product. I have never taken it, nor will I, because any product that is made in a factory and has the storage life to be shipped across the country and sit in a person’s cupboard for weeks on end, must be terribly processed. Any wholesome food, such as a strawberry, dehydrated, ground, or whatever they do to turn it into a powder, seems suspect. It makes me think of Kool-aid or Ice Tea powder. My aunt sells Isagenix and tries to get everyone on board with the product as well. She thinks she’s gifted because she has helped “1000’s” of people lose weight and live a better lifestyle. My aunt considers herself to be a very knowledgeable health professional but likely has no inkling of what each ingredient is or what it does to you. She doesn’t have the nutrition courses, or the chemistry, biochemistry, or biology courses, in order to understand how the body works and what types of nutrients, and chemicals are harmful to a person. I haven’t read your credentials but you do have far more knowledge than the average person in regards to what is healthful and what is not. People don’t seem to understand that company’s are going to “find” that information they need to back up their products; there is a lot of manipulation of “facts” in order to get people to believe in the product. Also, how can any product be beneficial that forces you to starve yourself, and losing weight so rapidly….. from my understanding, 1lb a week of weight loss is best, and it’s healthful eating and exercise that get people functioning optimally.
Kale is high in fiber, phytochemicals, and protein. It helps reduce cholesterol and prevents breast, ovarian, colon, bladder, and prostate cancers. Due to the presence of kaempferol and quercetin, kale is a superb antioxidant and anti-inflammatory agent. It has also been found to help in the reduction of body fat and the maintenance of good cardiovascular health (18).
I have to question anyone’s credibility who makes an ignorant statement that wholefoods is causing obesity. Clearly, these individuals are misinformed. ANY food in excess may lead to obesity. However, health is not just about weight. There are many variables which determine good health. If one where to eat 8 cups of brown rice a day 8 bananas and 14 avocados a day, YES this could lead to weight gain. It is still important that when eating whole or raw foods that we are eating a balanced diet. Even eating too much of the same greens may have an adverse affect on the body.
I am not for this stuff. Sorry but real food is what can grow on trees and in the ground or eat the grass in fields. Sorry to say though there are studies on BOTH sides that say agave is healthy agave is unhealthy, or different oils are fine and are not fine. There is research to prove both sides. Thats just how it goes! I am having crazy bad health problems, have 4 kids, and am only 26 years old! I have a friend trying to sell me this but gotta be honest I would rather attempt to rebuild health by taking out all fake crap and stuff that doesn’t belong. $400 dollar shakes made in a lab and sold by multi level marketing tactics DOES NOT sound good right out the gate. Its just another fad. It will fade just like the rest of them. Even if it made me feel better it just isn’t healthy. 20 to 30 pounds in a month??!?! Any good dr would tell you thats not healthy unless you have a severe heart problem that made you have to lose weight immediately. My Mother in law did that with the HCG diet. The difference very few people knew that you had to take all sorts supplements because the HCG diet is not good long term and you are missing a ton of nutrients. So she had a naturalpath giving her the other stuff she needed. She lost the weight, went off, and now eats only organic healthy stuff and she kept the weight off for years. The point is, we don’t know the long term effects. And you don’t know its healthy just because they say it is. Now I am rambling so I need to go.
My take on the idea of whole foods and avoiding excess fructose is actually right in line with yours. I do try to focus on whole foods for most of the meals I eat and I do not drink calories (soda) and try to minimize the sugar in my diet. Knowing that 50% of sucrose is fructose, I try to focus on the whole sugars. With Isagenix, my sugar intake overall has dropped, which is a good thing. It is a plan to aid me in achieving my goals. Could I achieve my goals with whole foods? I believe anyone could, but we have to be wise and strong. Sometimes we need a plan to help us, and that is was this is for me. I am intrigued by the energy increase I have felt, the weight loss I am starting to experience and the improved focus I have throughout my day. I don’t believe it is for everyone, but I do believe it is for some. My wife, for example, is hypoglycemic and has a dairy allergy. She struggles BIGTIME, and is trying Isagenix as an attempt to see if she can find some balance. Time will tell. Her best success has been on a ketogenic plan, so we’ll see how this goes.
One last thing……….. too many people are rude and arrogant to others that we do not even know. We sit at home and watch the news at night and are appalled at some of this things that happen in our time. Everyone says, I wish there was something we could do. Well, there is. Try not bagging others for their opinion, espcially those we do not know. It only shows how base some people can be. Keep in mind, that this lady is offering free advice, which I will be taking.
There are more then just that article. It pretty sad that your all for one product and not for another. Pick one and stick to it, right? They all have bad and they all have good. I would LOVE to see the thrid party research on your beloved product. Have universities (more then one) done research on your product? Did your product score higher the 46%+ on ALL categories tested, when compared to the heart healthy diet. Or what doctors around this hemisphere recommend to people. Guess what more and more are recommending Isa because it has the research to back it up.
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I am done here, comments always seem to go one sided, since this article belongs to Dani, so its obvious. I can only say from my personnel experience that isagenix helped me. The same ground beef that Dani is promoting as safe is what got me get cancer in my thyroid. Entire thyroid was removed and no matter how healthy I eat, my immune system was weak and cause all kind of health issues, until I discover Isagenix. It boost my immune system, give me lots of energy, my allergies and joint pain are gone and I have never felt so healthy in years. I lost all the weight I gained since my surgery. Everybody has something that works for them and for me it is what it is. Do not deny that from me, because I am living proof it and loving everyday now. If I get my health back due to organic healthy eating alone, I would make the same comment, but the truth is it did not help me.
Hey not everyone has the ability to exercise (possibly due to any injury). So for some of us Isagenix has been a life-saver. It’s not just about the weight loss. I have never felt better in my life! And by the way, I don’t sell it, I use it for my own personal consumption. And it is gluten free!! I’m sorry everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but that’s just what it is “opinion.” Not everything is going to work for everyone, but that’s what makes the world go round! People need to make their own decisions based on their own personal needs. For me, Isagenix in conjunction with super clean eating has been the answer.
To be included in the ingredient list under the term natural flavors, the flavoring compound must not only give the item its specific taste and be found in nature, but its main purpose should be to give a food flavor rather than to contribute to the food’s nutritional value. Because sweeteners are considered primarily nutritional, they must be disclosed in the ingredient list and cannot be listed as natural flavors. In addition, colors and chemical preservatives (used to enhance the appearance of food and keep it from spoiling) cannot be listed as natural flavors.
Just because soy, agave and gluten are only in some of the items I listed on my site, does not mean that they are not in more products that Isagenix sells. I do not have the time or energy to go through every single product Isagenix sells and highlight the garbage. For example, there is soy in this http://www.isagenix.com/us/en/isaleanbars.dhtml as well as this http://www.isagenix.com/us/en/isagenixsnacks.dhtml and I’m sure in several other products.
Dani, your reply is spot on! In my experience, all the Isagenix people try to scare us into thinking that there is no way our bodies can rid themselves of all the environmental toxins we are exposed to. I agree that the environment has become very polluted and that we are exposed to more toxins than ever before, but as long as you eat healthy, unprocessed and sustainable food, your liver can do a pretty good job of getting rid of things that are not not supposed to be there.
As I mentioned, the Body Beautiful 7 Day Detox is very simple. First thing we do, is train your body to utilize fat for energy. Your body is a machine and it runs on carbs as its primary fuel. So just for this week, we will leave only the minimum amounts of carbs in your nutrition plan. This will allow your body to transition to its secondary fuel source – fats.
Cleanse Days aren’t complicated, but for most people, they are very different from the usual daily routine. Planning a Cleanse Day might even seem a bit intimidating. The overall goal is to significantly limit calories for a period of up to two consecutive days per week (a total of four days per month) while receiving nourishment from Cleanse for Life® and other Cleanse Day snack options. Cleanse Days are about letting your body rest and recharge – there are no laxatives or diuretics involved.
Former Isagenix customer Megan Moulton says that the power of the social media groups and the communities can be the magic bullet for hardcore fans. "You can become a celebrity within the Isagenix community. Social media can make you feel special and affirmed, and the more you post the more important you can feel. Some people really seem to need that."
Your article is nothing short of fear-mongering. You prey on uneducated people who fail to research information for themselves and instead want to rely on you because you are a Certified Nutrition Consultant. If you want to use your title to help people, then do it, but lose the fear-mongering. Some of us don’t believe people just because of the title on their articles, or even the credentials they carry. A bit of research that barely took 30 minutes and 1 visit to the isagenix website solely to see that there are 11 grams of sugar in the shake (only part of which is fructose.)
I have started isagenix and now at day 8 of a 30 day cleanse. I am doing to give it a try as a my personal trainer mentioned it to me. I can only concur with Dani about the ingredients list as I have all the products she has mentioned which are the ones you mention Megan too and they have the ingredients that Dani has published on her blog. THEREFORE isagenix does is gluten, contains fructose, maltodextrin etc. So someone really needs to read the back of the packaging! As I said I am giving it a go as a template to regulate eating habits and to see what are the benefits as was looking for more energy. Australian farmers are the most efficient producers of food we need to eat everyday. Lets just buy fresh food and then we would all be a lot healthier!
This is a simple recipe. Just cut a few slices of raw cucumber and put them in your water just like you would with a lemon wedge. Speaking of lemons, you should definitely include a wedge of lemon or other citrus fruit. Drink at least eight glasses a day for seven days. For maximum effect, eat the cucumbers. This recipe is deceptively simple yet one of the best detox cleanse for weight loss.
Some of you that support Isagenix don’t get what Dani is saying because she is on one end of the spectrum and you are on the other. But in our day and time you will have to find yourself somewhere in the middle and know when it counts and where it doesn’t; simply because of what we have done to our environment. But I disagree with consuming Isagenix for an extended period of time. Some people who are on it claim that the drink that shake everyday and have done so for the past 2-3 or more years. I think that this should only be a stepping stone but not something you do forever. Again, I believe that as you reach your health goal of breaking bad habits you should take on a holistic or whole food approach when ever possible.
Are there not more pressing issues in the world today that deserve our upmost attention??? Our organic thought and acceptance that there is only, has only ever been, and will only ever be ONE authority on these things? The authority that ONE has in regards to the ONLY relationship that ONE ever has? The ONE relationship with the entirety of the earth and every form of life upon it?
There’s a big difference between small amount of naturally occurring fructose in whole foods that I recommend. There’s also a big difference between “fear mongering” and educating people who are otherwise spending their hard earned money on overly processed food byproducts that are being peddled ad health. I find lately that using facts and science to evaluate things is labeled as fear mongering. It used to just be called critical thinking.
If a cross-fitter needs meal advice based on his/her specific needs, then that cross-fitter has some responsibility to bear as well. Isagenix has never claimed to offer personalized meal planning though some associates are fully qualified to do so. Would it be fair for me to expect my personal trainer to live with me to ensure that my very specific issues are being addressed while on my own as well… no, at some point, I have to take what I learn from him/her police myself. Isagenix is excellent at providing advice on healthy meal choices.
I met a usually fit bubbly friend from the gym today for a green tea (it’s my fast day so coffee tomorrow) and she is really un well after 6 weeks on Isagenix. She has stopped taking it for a few days and is slowly starting to feel better. Hence why I decided to do some research on this poison. This is not natural it’s in a jar for Christ sake, if you want natural buy whole fruits, vegetables and fresh fish and meats. Take an hour out of your day and prepare and cook beautiful food, sit down with your family and enjoy healthy good food and they weight will drop and you will feel great in no time…and guess what along with the bargain you save money as you aren’t lining other peoples pockets in a pyramid scheme. Wake up!
Too many folks are afraid to admit that they are angry about something. Well, sometimes some piece of crap comes along that ruined people’s lives, like Isagenix, that justifies your anger. You don’t need to be angry at the world, but it’s ok to be angry at the drone-bots sent by Isagenix cult masters who corrupted a friend or a loved one. BE ANGRY!
Oh no, it’s the same old ‘fat burning’ claim. Natural Accelerator throws all of the usual suspects together for the typical ‘metabolism raising’ supplement: cocoa, green tea, apple cider vinegar, cayenne, cinnamon, chromium, and of course, ionic alfalfa! Isagenix seems to be quite fond of ionic alfalfa, even though it has basically zero evidence behind it. Maybe the ‘ionic’ part makes it sound all science-y and effective, even though it probably isn’t.
I just have to say since I can not post the pictures I took of the IsaLean Shake container the issue can not put to rest. There are no DENATURED protein in Isagenix IsaLean Shake and is FREE of GLUTEN and SOY (reads on the front of the container). I take it and I looked the actual ingredients and all I read UNDENATURED and have not found anything that reads “artificial” There is FRUCTOSE, but I as looked up fructose I found this article: http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/nutrition/a/fructosedangers.htm
For snacks throughout the day, I ate Isagenix Snacks in French Vanilla flavour. They are round wafers made of New Zealand whey protein and are low calorie. I was allowed to have up to six a day. The first two Cleanse Days I ate all six each day. The last two Cleanse Days I wasn’t as hungry so I only had three. I preferred to chew these up fast because it releases the flavour. I tried sucking on them but I didn’t like that as much. They really do work to stop cravings and hold you off until the next meal. They also come in Chocolate flavour.
I’ve been feeling very tired and have eaten very little. The shakes taste like twelve kinds of ass (I have to add decaf coffee just to make them palatable and I’m yet to be able to finish a whole one) and the snacks they give you with the presidential pack are, unfortunately, laden with chocolate. The bars have twice as much carbs/calories as the closest fruit containing equivalent I could find on the market, and the ‘cleanse day tea’ I have tastes like powerade. Exactly like powerade. I don’t think there’s a difference.
I wish people would open their eyes a bit and spend more time criticizing and ripping apart the REAL scammers in our world, like Big Pharma whose job it is to keep us sicker than ever and not a product or company that promotes and believes in REAL solutions for a healthy body, whatever the company may be. If any of you actually believe that our bodies can naturally defend themselves against all of the toxins and pollution that is bombarded on us WITHOUT our consent, then good luck to you…you will need it. Start fighting against those making you ill….NOT those trying to at least help! And btw…this lady’s job is to pick apart anything she gets her hands on….open your eyes!
In no way am I challenging any of the research you have done or your claims about the ingredients, etc. Your science is solid. What I am challenging is the “for whom” aspect of the article that was not considered. Is Isagenix much healthier, and a better food choice for 99% of the people who consume it? Yes, because most of them are overweight and undereducated about food. Is Isagenix better than a balanced, nutrient rich meal composed of whole foods that are free of any processed ingredients, chemicals, preservatives, additives, isolates, etc. Yes.
A nutritional cleanse might be a way to move nutrients through the body very quickly. A cleanse might include eating all fruits and vegetables, or drinking some type of liquid that will increase transit time in the digestive tract. Cleanses can be harmful to your body because they can increase the elimination of electrolytes such as sodium and potassium. Please check with your physician or registered dietitian about the healthiest way to do a cleanse.
Chel – The multi-level marketing scams like Isagenix are well within my wheelhouse. I am also well-educated enough to know that crappy shakes used as meal replacements are not good for people, and are certainly not as good for anyone as healthy meals plus a daily multi-vitamin. No one with any credibility would ever suggest that it’s a good idea to take the crap that Isagenix sells rather than just eat a healthy diet of fruits, vegetables, lean protein, and whole grains. Good luck shilling!
Of course inflammation is a normal response, that’s kind of obvious. But you should know that with modern-day diets, stress and sleep, inflammation is rampant. You should also know that due to modern day diet, omega-6 is ubiquitous; in fact people eat way too much omega-6, which leads to inflammation. Inflammation is the basis of all disease. Vegetable oils are extremely high in omega-6, which makes them inflammatory. Which was my original point because these products contain vegetable oils like canola, fractionated palm kernel and sunflower, which are all inflammatory.
Okay, so you won’t be dining at Waffle House this week. To make the cleanse work for you, you’ll need to make your own dinners for the next seven days, or special order off the menu of your favorite restaurant. Cleanse Dinners consist of protein and vegetables, and healthy fats, but no grains or fruits. A little harsh, but again, it’s only temporary. Metabolism decreases up to 35% during sleep, so any extra carbs in your system at bedtime are more likely to get stored as fat. Grains and fruit are the main carb sources in our diets, so I’m stripping them out at dinnertime for the next seven days.
I’m not sure if your brain isn’t properly functioning due to taking Isagenix for almost five years, but the ingredient lists were pulled directly from the Isagenix website and I really don’t appreciate being called a liar. Anyone who has the basic ability to read can see the list of sources I used to provide the ingredient lists. So to say that the ingredient lists are fake (when I clearly provided links for them that go to the Isagenix website) is basically an admission that you know the ingredients are garbage.