At one time, I agreed with everything you have said. That was two years ago when I was sick and becoming increasingly incapable of daily life. I decided to give Isagenix a try. Why not? Tried everything else including an entire year of prescriptive drugs and miracle vitamin powders. Am I glad I made that decision. Today, my life has completely changed. In spite of the skepticism on your part, you cannot negate the real experience for someone else. I am sorry for your negative post because I think you might be keeping someone else from a better life’s experience. On another note, the best products I have in my cupboards are those that come from MLMs. They are typically higher quality and guaranteed. The distribution method is simply a choice. There is no difference if you get a product from Proctor and Gamble, Costco, Walmart or an MLM. Not all MLM products are untested nor certified. Goodness, I’ve used some certifiable products that flat didn’t work or were extremely dangerous. Why not post labels of all the “food” on the Grocery shelves and I bet you can’t even begin to explain what’s in them. Thanks for bursting my joy.
When the body begins a “detoxification” process of any kind (read: diet change) the initial weight loss is water, not fat. So when you read such wonderful product testimonies about diminished bloating, 5-10 lbs lost ‘first week’, etc. (just examples) you can chalk it up to water weight. This is the point where the roller-coaster comes in – as soon as we stop seeing the big weight loss numbers (number on the scale stops dropping) and we hit a plateau, more often than not, the average person goes back to their old habits.
Please remember people, it is a good idea to consult your own health professional first before embarking on one of these schemes. You have no idea how someone with an underlying condition can react to some of the synthetic vitamins pushed by Isagenix. Talk to your GP first. But be acutely aware that the person who sold you Isagenix, is likely to be just like you or me, with no medical background. The person who sold you the product will only be interested in making money from you initial order and autoship orders…….. thats how they get free product and make money.
Wow, I came on here to research the product as a friend was doing a hard sell on me. She has lost about 10 kg. ( good on her I say ) But from what I have learnt from Isagenix supporters is you’re all a bunch of Nutters ! If you have any faith in your product then you should not be threatened by a review. But listening to you all, then listening to Dani’s replies, I would have have to trust her opinion in a heart beat. It also seems most of you are believing what you have been told by the company and have not done any independent reasearch yourself. ( And by independent I mean not from the lsagenix website ). So before I get sucked into this cult like diet culture, I am saying NO ! And BTW you are not doing yourself or the company any favours by defending it in this “obsessed like nature”. I’m of to make a banana smoothie ! Thanks Dani if anything you helped me stear clear of this product as the peolpe are ” A Special kind of Special”
In addition to my journey, I started sharing my story with others and helping them do the same. I have now personally helped dozens of people shed 10, 20, 30, 40 and even (3 people) have shed over 70lbs! They’ve taken back control over their health and their lives. They feel good about themselves, they are happier than they have been for years and they are OPTIMISTIC about LIFE!
I too am a health coach and would NEVER use my credentials to further an MLM business. People trust us and come to us when they have no other place to turn. To drain their pocketbooks and push them to a lifestyle that does not give them any recourse but to stay on an unhealthy program or risk gaining all the weight back is unethical and cruel. You are no better than Jenny Craig or Nutri System… geared toward customers for life. Call yourself what you are… an Isagenix Rep, but please don’t confuse that with a HEALTH coach.
I am done here, comments always seem to go one sided, since this article belongs to Dani, so its obvious. I can only say from my personnel experience that isagenix helped me. The same ground beef that Dani is promoting as safe is what got me get cancer in my thyroid. Entire thyroid was removed and no matter how healthy I eat, my immune system was weak and cause all kind of health issues, until I discover Isagenix. It boost my immune system, give me lots of energy, my allergies and joint pain are gone and I have never felt so healthy in years. I lost all the weight I gained since my surgery. Everybody has something that works for them and for me it is what it is. Do not deny that from me, because I am living proof it and loving everyday now. If I get my health back due to organic healthy eating alone, I would make the same comment, but the truth is it did not help me.
I’m not sure if your brain isn’t properly functioning due to taking Isagenix for almost five years, but the ingredient lists were pulled directly from the Isagenix website and I really don’t appreciate being called a liar. Anyone who has the basic ability to read can see the list of sources I used to provide the ingredient lists. So to say that the ingredient lists are fake (when I clearly provided links for them that go to the Isagenix website) is basically an admission that you know the ingredients are garbage.
Hi! Very interesting blog post and comments section. I was given Isagenix by my sister and am currently on Day 4 of a 2 week “cleanse”. Prior to her giving it to me, I told her that I was wary of the product because I could not find any research supporting Isagenix that was not influenced or purchased by the company itself. That’s odd, especially for such a large company with so many supporters and testimonies. Despite my hesitation, I agreed to try it. I am obese and have been having trouble with sleep apnea, shortness of breath, and heart palpitations. My typical weekly diet included regular doses of fast food, pizza and at least 2 liters of fit soda per day. Frankly, I believe that Isagenix DOES contain things that are unhealthy. However, it is likely that they are less unhealthy than the disgusting things I was already consuming everyday. My plan is not to use Isagenix for life. I can see why people do, though. It’s a matter of convenience (and for some, a matter of pride). I am using this period to move from being completely unhealthy to embracing real foods again. There’s something about two shakes a day and a 48 hour no-solid-food period that just makes you appreciate something simple and natural like a sweet potato. (Please please please don’t tell me sweet potatoes are bad for me. I just fell in love with them.) I fully intend to return to a life of real food, which I believe does have everything we need to be healthy and thrive. I just needed a way to “reset”, to start the change I know my life needs.
Well said and researched. I completely 100% agree with you. Too many ingredients are unhealthy and for a company to be touting how healthy and beneficial the products are… well you need to walk the walk. Here in Australia the products include several NUMBERS ( chemicals) and thickeners. As my partner put it when he tried a shake – “it tastes fake!”
I have read pretty much each and every comment. There is no disagreeing with your main theme which if I am correct essentially there are a couple of ingredients which are not considered good for our body. i.e. soya lecithin, and fructose. Agree with you that its likely a bad idea to ingest both of those ingredients in in fact you want to eat healthy. Making your own protein shakes with all natural ingredients is preferable. NO DOUBT. Just one other point that I found kind of weird. Why do food manufacturers call “Salt” Sodium Chloride?
Sad also you have to bash a product when hundreds of thousands are getting GREAT results…..with a 96% success rate with people KEEPING IT OFF and feeling great its hard to deny its a good product. I would LOVE to see the results for your product. 96% I doubt its that much! thanks for coming out though. I also find it funny that you said you didn’t want to click on the page that EXPLAINS all the things you said were bad, JUST because it was from isa. SO you wont even let the company defend it self and SHOW YOU that really your dont know what your talking about. Like so many else have said……what are your credentials? This product was refereed to me by MY DOCTOR. who HAS done WAY more research on this stuff then EITHER of us has. She said she wouldn’t have put her name behind it if it wasn’t amazing stuff. So who am I going to believe…..someone that just looks at words and makes ASSUMPTIONS or my doctor who has all to loose if this product was a giant FLOP?
At the company’s Top Achiever’s 2014 event, Isagenix Chief Science Officer Suk Cho, Ph.D., said Dr. Paul topped the selection process for a research partnership because of his “extensive background in researching and designing programs that optimize nutrition and athletic performance.” Although Skidmore College could be considered a “small school,” Dr. Cho said, their lab has invested in some of the most advanced equipment, including dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry (DEXA) machines, for measuring total body composition.
I too was encouraged to try that Isagenix product. 1 of my siblings is heavily into the scheme. She suggested it to me, and I tried it for almost 5 days until I started experiencing negative side affects. A week later she asked me if I wanted go with her to an Isagenix event where I’d become an associate., but after I naive agreed she informed me at the last minute that she needed to submit my social security number to the reps in charge so they could make an isagenix account for me, and for their tax purposes too. She had everything planned for the trip. But I felt pressured/trapped about giving out my ss number. I also did research about the product and I was shocked when I found it was a scam. It makes no sense why suddenly the company wants my ss number and insists I buy another of their products just to be a seller. So I politely informed my sibling that I refused to just throw out my personal info when I knew the company wasn’t Real!
Debate provides a platform informed choice – in the spirit of increased knowledge and insight – thank you for this blog. We are all doing the best we can – for our bodies for our future 🙂 This program works for me – I am not an evangelist – as it may not be for you – but it just might be a better option than what people choose now – with obesity as an epidemic – I would suggest its the mainstream consumption habits of the western world that require a sprinkling of this education contained within this blog.
– The minute I mentioned the above points on a friends facebook feed when she said about thinking about doing it I got a barrage of shitty messages from Isagenix reps saying I knew ‘F’ All about nutrition and even CrossFit ( which really made me laugh) but couldn’t answer any of my questions I asked in the first place, thus cementing the fact that these idiots just have $ signs in their eyes and they missed out on some money.
I don’t know if it’s psychological or not, but that chai latte is throwing me off my game. I haven’t craved coffee for days, but now I’m feeling the shakes and I’m so close to running to the Starbucks across the street. Like a shock to my system, that chai latte was. Damn that chai latte to hell! I know I’m being punished for cheating, my stomach isn’t feeling so hot… But I’m going to be strong and drink water instead. I’ll drink it warm and in a coffee cup to trick myself into thinking it’s the real deal.
Part of why many of us choose to involve ourselves with Isagenix is because of who we were. I don’t think schools should have vending machines. I don’t think companies such as McDonalds and Coca-Cola should be allowed to sponsor sporting events. I admire companies that don’t cut corners in the name of bottom line profits but most of all, I think people deserve to have facts when making decisions…especially regarding their health.
There may also be some legitimate health concerns with the Isagenix product line. “I am not comfortable with the lack of research on this cocktail of herbs," says Sharp (she's talking about the herbs like aloe vera, licorice root, and peppermint in the Isagenix cleanse drink). "Just because they’re natural, doesn’t mean they’re benign, and consumed in large amounts, they may not be safe,” she adds.
I was genuinely curious about Isagenix and its ingredients when I discovered your website as my wife has been using it for a few years now, thanks for the reminder that people justify eating whole foods don’t actually use any science to back up that belief. Word to the wise, any vitamins your body doesn’t use are excreted which at worst gives you expensive urine.
Sorry, kitchen’s closed! At least for 12 hours since you last ate. Nighttime fasting—or reducing your “eating window”—may help to reset your metabolism and burn the extra glucose in your system after a period of overindulgence, according to a study in the journal Cell Metabolism. Researchers put groups of mice on a high-fat, high-calorie diet for 100 days (and you thought the 12 days of Christmas were bad!). Half the mice were allowed to nibble throughout the night and day on a healthy, controlled diet, while the others only had access to food for eight hours, but could eat whatever they wanted. The result of the 16-hour food ban? The fasting mice stayed lean, while the mice who noshed ‘round the clock became obese—even though both groups consumed the same amount of calories! There are more aggressive fasting protocols, but 12 hours without food is enough for most people to enter into a fasted state, according to some experts.
This purifying broth contains fennel to help bile flow in your gallbladder; garlic to help with liver and gall bladder function; cabbage, excellent for detoxification in both the liver and kidneys; and shitake mushrooms to boost liver enzymes. Serve soup with a side of sauerkraut with sliced apples. Sauerkraut contains probiotics, the good bacteria that protect your GI tract. Make sure to use traditionally fermented sauerkraut to get the greatest health benefits. Apples boost both kidney and liver function.
love the infoLove the info you post on here. Keep up the good work. I agree with you totally and people should fully read what you put down before getting on their high horse and telling you your wrong which you are not. Also on a side note you are very beautiful and I love what you stand for. Keep up the good fight. Education is the only way we can get our country to change its bad eating habits. If it didn’t grow naturally from the ground it should be left alone. Be smart about what you put in your body and the portions that you’re putting on your plates. Fad diets like all the shake programs out there will always leave you looking for the next quick program and you will have wasted hundreds of dollars and put the pounds right back on when you get board or no longer can justify the outrageous cost of which ever get thin quick program you are on. If you want real nutrition, stop with all the pills and supplements. And quit eating in front of your TVs. Cook a meal, get educated and stop blaming everything.
I really dont care that your not FOR isa. Or that you prefer one product over another. Its sad you think that just eating organic is preventing you from taking in toxins. Evidence shows that even eating organic you are eating 1/2 a liter of pesticides every year! What about the stuff you drink or bath in……skin is the biggest organ we have. Its impossible to get away from them.
Also, (to address some other points that came up from my observations), when I attended one of Isagenix’s conventions last year, the founders were clear to point out to the audience of 10,000 that their products were not intended to be a substitute for whole foods. With my own research into nutrition, I know very well, that as important and good advice as that is, with the severe mineral depletion of our soils through chemical contamination, a certain amount of supplementation is necessary, due to lack of complete nutrients from those whole foods. The other thing I was impressed with was Mr. Anderson pointing out how they spend one million $ a year on testing to ensure there are no contaminants in any of their products. Then, Dr. Andrews, pointing out how he was approached by numerous other MLMs (like them or not) and related how none of them had the integrity that Isagenix has and that’s why he chose them to help formulate Product B based on his scientific discoveries for anti-aging. Hope this is helpful.
This isn’t the only company that uses this tactic. Beachbody (maker of some great workout DVDs) is an MLM that sells a product called Shakeology in addition to the workout programs. The vast majority of Shakeology customers are also sales affiliates (or “coaches” as they call them). The shake costs $115 A MONTH(a little less if you are a coach), and the claims that these coaches make are ridiculous, unfounded, and irresponsible. They claim that Shakeology cured their IBS, helps them manage their diabetes, got them off a whole slew of medications, etc. (look at their Facebook page for a small sampling). If you say $115 a month is too expensive, they’ll tell you that a) it’s NOT expensive when you consider people spend that much on Starbucks, and b) well, you save $30 if you sign up as a coach under me. I was intrigued, so I figured I would do some research. EVERY page that I came across about Shakeology was written by a Beachbody Coach. If you type in “Shakeology scam,” you are directed to a site with an article that explains why Shakeology is NOT a scam. Type in “Shakeology pyramid”, “shakeology sucks”, you get articles written by Beachbody coaches saying why Shakeology is NOT those things. You need to be careful with these MLMs. They have a way of brainwashing their sales people
This article is well written and well informed. It’s actually a sad state of affairs that peoples diets are so bad that they have to turn to products like Isagenix for solutions and even worse that they get results, creating a vicious cycle of defending uninformed positions with confirmation bias. Isagenix is a prime example of how we can still avoid real nutritional science and capitalize off peoples desperation. It is clear that the ‘pro-Isagenix’ posts in this forum are either from people selling Isagenix products or those who feel they have to defend their position due to the great results they have had with isagenix fixing part of their nutrient deficiencies….. in the least efficient and unhealthiest way possible.
halu tanya…but tanya – you are an advocate/supporter of the Isagenix. Of course you will have a subjective rebuttal. And if you was a past student of mine at JCU you would know that research can be undertaken without being a specialist. The research gives you the information for an informed opinion. Profiling you as you have profiled/judged this lady – a supporter of De Generes has their head in the sand…the audience are paid monkeys similar to Isagenix supporters…
If you are trying to endorse a whey only supplement as a substitute for a protein based MEAL REPLACEMENT as part of complete program including supplements then you have failed. Isagenix does, in fact, have a whey only NON GMO, UNdenatured product as well called isapro, however, the shakes you are reviewing are not this product (though they are also fabulous if you take the time to find out the source of the ingredients). You are clearly trying to stir the pot because you don’t like programs like this. I believe in real food, but I also find nothing wrong with this particular program. They are not all created equal. If you are going to say that even though the products are stated non GMO that they likely aren’t, then how can you not think the same for the things you eat? If it says non GMO then it should be assumed it is, as far as we know (unless there is a situation like the GMO wheat in which no one is aware, but it is unfair to assume this). In all honesty I think you are trying to use the big name of Isagenix to draw attention to your blog so you can get more sponsorship. Blogs are nothing but marketing tools for your own interest in the same way you are trying to say these programs are.
You are correct to say you are not lying about the ingredients in Isagenix, for these are the ingredient labels from some of the Isagenix products. Clearly, putting these ingredient labels on the internet proves the company has nothing to hide. As I read through these labels, I see healthy ingredients and nothing that would worry me nor my doctors that have reviewed the labels too.
So don’t do that. The Zero Belly Cleanse, from my book Zero Belly Diet, provides fast weight loss while avoiding the yo-yo pitfall. First, it reduces your calorie intake slightly, without radically altering the way you eat. There’s no sudden, dramatic food restriction, just a smart 7-day dining plan. Second, it incorporates short bouts of mild exercise to up your metabolic burn, without forcing you into intense, hard-to-stick-to workouts. And third, it keeps your body fueled with clean, powerful, high-nutrient foods that will boost your health while targeting unhealthy belly fat.
“I have been a vegetarian/vegan/organic eater all my life! Before I started on Isagenix I was eating a high raw, all organic, nutritionally balanced diet, with lots of whole food, juicing, etc. I started on the shakes during my first pregnancy because although I was eating the “healthiest diet” on the planet of real whole foods, my blood work showed differently.”
I found myself about 25 days ago, being faced with the choice of trying Isagenix. I looked into it. I did some research. I was discerning. And given that those who introduced me to it were close family and I had been watching their results closely and was actually impressed, I decided to give it a go. But lets be clear about something: I owned that decision completely. It was not sold, because I will not be sold to. Now, 20 days in, so many of my hopes and dreams are back in gear and the adventures I’ve been hoping and praying to be part of are within my conscious control. Isagenix didn’t do that. I did. I saw Isagenix as a tool and I realised that my application of that tool would be paramount to the success or failure of the venture. Sure, I understand and appreciate that some of the ingredients are suspect. But so is the fluoride added to water supplies that is still mandatory in most provinces and states of New Zealand and Australia where I’ve spent the majority of my 39 years. And we know what that stuff does to our pineal gland… right? And what the pineal gland does for us and how important latest neurological studies are suggesting it is to our overall experience as “living systems?” I really hope thats a bandwagon those of you with “credentials” are on. I don’t mean that disrespectfully, I sincerely mean that.
I don’t know where you got your information about canola oil but this oil is the healthiest oil on the market. It’s a rich source of vitamin E, it’s cholesterol-free, canola has high levels of mono-unsaturated fatty acids, which have been shown to reduce blood cholesterol levels and it’s polyunsaturated fats are essential omega-3s – which may help prevent heart attacks and strokes – and omega-6s – which are important for the brain and essential for the growth and development of infants.
** The statements in this publication have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. If you are pregnant, nursing, diabetic, on medications have a medical condition, or are beginning a weight control program, consult your physician before using Isagenix products or making any other dietary changes. Discontinue use if allergic reactions occur.
Great article! We have changed our diets to (as much as possible) organic, unprocessed, chemical free foods. I am 52 and this is the best I have felt, I believe, ever! Eating this way and incorporating exercise has been a life changer for me. At my last two physicals my labs have come back wonderful. I also am in menopause and do not have to take anything. I appreciate this article, as this product was brought up during my exercise class today and I was somewhat leery of it. Thank you for advocating true healthy eating.
I follow Vani the food babe and she has a wealth of information on this, too. There’s a reason she was able to get fast food companies (chik fil a for ex) to agree to switch to certified organic chicken in the near future. It all comes down to awareness…you cannot trust a company backing their product, nor can you trust the FDA. It’s the sad truth!
Her information is accurate, just because you lost a significant amount of weight and got a new part time does not mean that the product is healthy. She gave a nutritional review and at no point did she tell people that they need to stop using it. Just like you are arguing that it is a great product because it helped you I also know someone who used it for over a year that is now diabetic and has chronic liver inflammation due to increased consumption of fructose- a diagnosis made by a doctor, she is 26 years old and a type 2 diabetic and her doctors concluded that it was due to her diet in the previous year and a half of which 12 months was the isogenix shakes/diet, which she swore by until she ended up in the hospital. Proper diet and a work out schedule can make people healthier, sleep better, concentrate better etc. It’s wonderful and all that you feel good and that your friend is doing well but by no means does it mean that this product is healthy or for everyone. But you sound just like my friend that I mentioned before her diagnosis, unwilling to hear anything negative about your life choices…you can KNOW something is bad for you and continue to do it by all means its your life but dont try to tell Dani she has no credibility because she actually does and you dont. You’re a sales person and that’s it. The fact that you said you worked a job you didnt like and that it was hourly just gives off the vibe that you dont have the education to back up what you are saying.
Feel free to try to defend processed, refined and all-around crappy ingredients. I have made my stance on each of these things abundantly clear, and quite frankly i’m tired of repeating myself. If you have further questions, please refer to the approximate one million responses I’ve left to other people spouting the same false information and complete lack of logic, science and common sense that you just did. AND I MEAN THIS NICELY AND AS MOTIVATION.
But when I consciously choose to travel to far away countries, be accepted by the indigenous people and accept them in return, who hold ancient knowledge and wisdom for the future betterment and evolution of our species, do service to a community, to be part of a combined and soul felt movement for love, understanding, acceptance and peace, then I am SOMEBODY.
Diet detoxes, juice cleanses and body purifying diets have become very popular in recent years. While there are a host of benefits to cleaning up your diet and focusing on healthier foods, many diet detoxes or cleanses are unsafe and unhealthy. Health professionals warn that these types of products can be dangerous (especially if followed for a longer period of time). They can lead to muscle breakdown, electrolyte imbalances and nutrient deficiencies. Additionally, much of the weight lost on these programs is water weight, not fat. Once you discontinue the cleanse and go back to normal eating, it's common to regain the weight that was lost. Instead of following a cleanse program to lose weight, clean up your diet, be active and ditch bad habits.
When CHOICE contacted Isagenix Australia a spokesperson said that the company prohibits 'associates' (who are independent contractors) from providing false or misleading information about the products or business opportunities and that it routinely monitors improper claims as well as providing training sessions. "We do not authorise any medical claims or advice with respect to our products."
I represent another type of Isagenix victim – the discarded parent of an adult completely taken in by the cult. I was able to recognize immediately that Isagenix was a pyramid scheme, even before I researched their products. Multi-level marketing is just a euphemism for the slightly modified language of disreputable companies to avoid pyramid lawsuits, but the scam is the same. The promise of certain wealth and success for those who will spend hundreds per month and thousands per year of their dollars to attempt to reach those goals is supplemented by their psychological programming – videos, conference calls, meetings, etc. – the goal of which is to convince the unwitting marks that the company people who support them and encourage them are doing so out of the goodness of their hearts because they care about them. Anything less than the constant “Rah Rah” of the Isagenix con-artists, they are told, is evidence of non-support and a barrier to their success to be avoided. At first, the subject was avoided, then there was slight distancing, then, after 2 years of not jumping on the bandwagon (and, by the way, not giving my child my SS#), three months ago I was told in a text that I no longer had a place in my child’s life, or the lives of my grandchildren. The two years of walking on eggshells and hoping the cult would lose its grip on the child we raised are over. Now, nothing short of deprogramming will change things. Our family can not be the only one to suffer this fate. I wish I knew of a place to publish a detailed condemnation of how Isagenix, and other scammers, brainwashing of vulnerable people – all of the people that they hook are vulnerable to one degree or another else why would they fall for the “get rich quick” narrative – to reject and avoid those who don’t join them on the Ponzi train, even family. Make no mistake, everything about Isagenix “marketing training” is from the same playbook used by cult leaders. I wish there was a source for actual data of how much money was spent and lost by their victims who tried their program and failed. I also wish there was a support group for parents like us who lost beloved members of their family as the thrall of the scam engulfed a child they raised and loved dearly for decades. The grief is enormous, especially since it must be borne in silence.
Promoting a fundamental misunderstanding of chemistry and nutrition is dangerous, yes. You are just appealing to a different nutriotion religion and draw uneccessary distinctions. There is nothing that indicates “organic” is better than GMO. In fact all the organic products you eat were just genetically modified over hundreds of years by humans through selective breeding.
People who are involved in the nutrition field are far more knowledgeable, they have vast amounts of education on this subject, and a huge advantage over let’s say a car mechanic when it comes to figuring out the good from the bad at the local grocery store (which is where the majority of Americans shop for their food) Label reading is extremely hard, especially if you do not know all the bad things to look for as a trained professional would know like the back of their hand, such as yourself. A great portion of Americans know the simple pit falls in eating, like, do not eat at McDonalds, don’t eat donuts for breakfast lunch and dinner. I am not saying it is the total education of the individual, but nutritional education which not that many people have, is key here.
What’s disconcerting to me is the culty behavior of all these Isagenix drones. “You must use Isagenix. Isagenix is like manna from the Gods. How dare you criticize it! It heals the world!” Blahblahblah. So annoying and anyone with half a thought in their brain could see through this rubbish. Dani, thanks for all you do and ignore the trolls. They are all brainwashed. I’m sure some people are “healed” and lost weight and cured of every disease under the sun but the fact of how they attack and defend and argue would make me run for the hills and never even consider their products. I know a few Isa-head drones in real life and every conversation is a ploy to get me to “just try the healthy lifestyle”, “just give it 30 days”, “don’t you want more energy?” blahblah and even one has gone so far as to say that my doctor who treats me via functional medicine and nutrition is robbing me of money and she wishes I could just try this program. Then she talks all about how much money she makes from the sales. I’m put off. I’m sticking with the ancestral nutrition route forever.